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  1. says:

    Got to admit that I wasn t impressed with this book I m not saying that McNab s Bravo Two Zero is a historical document, far from it, but this book just seemed to have a bitter pettiness to it that left a sour taste in my mouth It seemed to me to besuited to a biased tabloid.


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    This is a must read for anyone who is interested in the Special Forces in general or SAS Bravo Two Zero patrol in particular Michael Asher is amongst other things ex SAS and this is the account of his on the ground 2001 research into what happened to the Bravo Two Zero patrol in Iraq in 1991 It is a fascinating detective story which begins with Asher meeting Uday Hussain then finding and walking the route taken by the patrol.With the help of local people, Asher manages to find the actual loc This is a must read for anyone who is interested in the Special Forces in general or SAS Bravo Two Zero patrol in particular Michael Asher is amongst other things ex SAS and this is the account of his on the ground 2001 research into what happened to the Bravo Two Zero patrol in Iraq in 1991 It is a fascinating detective story which begins with Asher meeting Uday Hussain then finding and walking the route taken by the patrol.With the help of local people, Asher manages to find the actual locations which were the milestones for the Bravo Two Zero patrol During the book Asher tests and calls into question some of the claims made by Andy McNab and Chris Ryan This book must make uncomfortable reading for them Having read the book for what they did achieve, I still hold all those concerned in high regard, but will now consider McNab s original book as historical fiction


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    THE REAL BRAVO TWO ZERO is Michael Asher s attempt to shed light on what really happened during the ill fated Bravo Two Zero mission in Iraq that Andy McNab and Chris Ryan wrote about.Such an expose is inherently interesting and there s plenty of material to get out of the story Asher wanders around Iraq, speaking to the Iraqis who were involved in the story, and his findings are shocking But I can t help feeling he s coming a little late to the party, determined to spoil the story, rake up THE REAL BRAVO TWO ZERO is Michael Asher s attempt to shed light on what really happened during the ill fated Bravo Two Zero mission in Iraq that Andy McNab and Chris Ryan wrote about.Such an expose is inherently interesting and there s plenty of material to get out of the story Asher wanders around Iraq, speaking to the Iraqis who were involved in the story, and his findings are shocking But I can t help feeling he s coming a little late to the party, determined to spoil the story, rake up some controversy and make some cash at the same time So that sours the experience for me


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    Michael Asher has an axe to grind Having read both Bravo Two Zero and The one that got away , I couldn t help but feel that Michael Asher was constantly trying to disprove both Mcnab and Ryan s accounts I appreciate that Asher was trying to defend the honour of the regiment, and of Vince Phillips, but the book was overshadowed by a sense of sometimes childlike rivalry, as if he wanted to be their himself on that fateful mission, but tries to discredit the ones who were For me, it was a go Michael Asher has an axe to grind Having read both Bravo Two Zero and The one that got away , I couldn t help but feel that Michael Asher was constantly trying to disprove both Mcnab and Ryan s accounts I appreciate that Asher was trying to defend the honour of the regiment, and of Vince Phillips, but the book was overshadowed by a sense of sometimes childlike rivalry, as if he wanted to be their himself on that fateful mission, but tries to discredit the ones who were For me, it was a good read, but at times, I felt that I was reading about one man s personal mission to discredit the whole affair, which doesn t seem to be in the nature of an ex SAS veteran Nobody knows for sure if Asher s account was also embellished, so for me, the fact finding becameof a subjective endeavour with Asher most certainly out to get Mcnab and Ryan A little bit disappointing due to the personal vendettas against the other authors


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    Well that certainly puts end to the BS of Bravo Two Zero and The One That Got Away Proved that McNab and Ryan have distorted the truth informed to cash in Asher travels back to Iraq and traced the exploits of the ill fated B2O patrol He interviews witnesses there and pulls apart the stories and prices together afeasible outcome.They had some great exploits which would make great reading so why embellish it, much better read than the actual B20 and OTGA.


  6. says:

    Kind of worth a read Interesting read some loose conclusions the story the real story remains a mystery to me Interesting to read the story from another perspective but alas take it with a grain of salt.


  7. says:

    The most believable book about this


  8. says:

    You cannot just read the book and not watch the Doc Well, it is a good one.


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    This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers To view it, click here Spoiler Alert Having just reread The One That Got Away, and Bravo Two Zero again, one after the other, it was obvious that there were discrepancies between the two, and Michael Asher s account became a must read for me I d also read about Chris Ryan s reaction to Asher s expos in that he apparently wanted to meet him behind the bike sheds to settle things with a punch up The bizarre thing about that was that it suggested that the best pugilist must be telling the truth In actual fact, while Spoiler Alert Having just reread The One That Got Away, and Bravo Two Zero again, one after the other, it was obvious that there were discrepancies between the two, and Michael Asher s account became a must read for me I d also read about Chris Ryan s reaction to Asher s expos in that he apparently wanted to meet him behind the bike sheds to settle things with a punch up The bizarre thing about that was that it suggested that the best pugilist must be telling the truth In actual fact, while Asher seems to disprove conclusively the veracity of all that is written in the Ryan and McNab books, he does so in a fair way without taking anything away from the patrol members in terms of endurance and courage One thing that did leave me disappointed in Chris Ryan was the strong doubt Asher casts on Ryan s account of the actions of Vince Phillips He also put forward some all too believable theories about Ryan s possible motives in denigrating Vince It s OK not not let the truth get in the way of a good story, but portraying a fellow soldier as inept and a coward when they are dead and can t tell their side of the story, is pretty low Shame on you Chris Ryan Colin Armstrong.Of the three books, Asher s is the most well written, and kept me interested throughout He convinced me that Ryan and McNab s whining about it being a put up job by Iraq with actors magically inserted into Asher s path along with extended families, or entire communities all with an identical account of what really happened to the B2Z patrol, was nonsense I will now seek and read Soldier Five by Mike Coburn with my fingers crossed that his account is near to Michael Asher s than to either The One That Got Away, or Bravo Two Zero


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    I suppose I m doing things back to front here Never having read McNab s or Ryan s famous books, I decided to start off with Michael Asher s His is a remarkable work of investigative journalism and an adventure in its own right It would seem Asher, being an ex SAS was mainly motivated by a sense of loyalty to the SAS and in particular to one of the fallen from Bravo Two Zero, Sgt Vince Phillips He goes about retracing the steps of the 8 man patrol trapped behind enemy lines in Iraq Bit by I suppose I m doing things back to front here Never having read McNab s or Ryan s famous books, I decided to start off with Michael Asher s His is a remarkable work of investigative journalism and an adventure in its own right It would seem Asher, being an ex SAS was mainly motivated by a sense of loyalty to the SAS and in particular to one of the fallen from Bravo Two Zero, Sgt Vince Phillips He goes about retracing the steps of the 8 man patrol trapped behind enemy lines in Iraq Bit by bit our Arabic speaking author finds very surprising information that asks serious questions of both Ryan s and McNab s portrayals of events and in particular, Sgt Phillips character In reconstructing history he uses information from local people, in particular the local Bedouin Asher seems to be on a mission to find the truth or come as close to it as he can He goes about it as efficiently as only a goal oriented military practitioner can, but he attempts to remain respectful, humane and as unbiased as possible The name of Vince Phillips is eventually vindicated serious questions are asked of the reports by Ryan and especially McNab Nonetheless everyone remains a hero Nobody is vilified Being an SAS member asks for a special kind of soldier something that each member of the patrol clearly was Asher s book is a premium read for persons interested in military history, reality action and the Gulf War I suppose I will now have to read the books by McNab and Ryan, albeit thy will seem semi fictional in places


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The Real "Bravo Two Zero" The Bravo Two Zero Mission, In Which An Eight Man SAS Patrol Was Discovered Many Miles Behind Iraqi Lines And Had To Make A Run Back For The Border And Safety, Is Probably The Most Famous Incident Involving British Troops In The Gulf War Two Bestselling Books Bravo Two Zero And The One That Got Away Were Published And Two Of The Soldiers, Using The Pseudonyms Andy McNab And Chris Ryan , Were Launched Into New Careers As Writers Even The Most Uncritical Reader Of The Two Books Would Have Been Aware That Some Artistic Licence Had Been Employed What Michael Asher Claims Is The Truth About Bravo Two Zero Is, However, Astonishing Asher, Fluent In Arabic And Familiar With The Ways Of The Desert Arabs, Travelled To Iraq Years After The Gulf War And Re Traced The Steps Of The SAS Patrol, Finding Bedouin Eyewitnesses To Events There Is An Almost Comical Disparity Between McNab And Ryan S Version Of The Mission And The Version Asher Reports According To McNab, When The Patrol Was Discovered, It Was By Iraqi Soldiers And A Furious Firefight Ensued With The SAS Men Downing A Dozen Or Men Before Fleeing According To Asher, The Mission Was Compromised By Three Arab Locals, One Of Them A Man In His S, And The SAS Wisely Decided That Discretion Was The Better Part Of Valour And Withdrew According To Ryan, On His Lonely Journey To The Syrian Border, He Was Obliged To Kill Two Iraqis, One With His Bare Hands According To Asher S Sources, He Omitted To Mention This At His Initial De Briefing One Of Asher S Aims In His Book Is To Rehabilitate The Reputation Of Vince Phillips, One Of The Dead Most Readers Of This Book And Of The Tale Told By The Arab Who Discovered Phillips S Body Will Probably Decide That He Has Done So Yet Asher Does Not Seem Motivated By A Desire To Denigrate The Heroism Of McNab And Ryan We Get The Heroes We Want And Asher Understands That The Rambo Like Exploits They Reported Were What We, And The Media, Demanded Of Them Their Real Heroism, Respected By Both Asher And The Bedouins To Whom He Spoke, Lay In Their Powers Of Endurance And Determination When Utterly Isolated And Alone, Hundreds Of Miles Inside Enemy Territory In The Real Bravo Two Zero Asher Has Written A Far Better And Humane Book Than Either Of The Two He Deconstructs, But He Still Seems To Understand Why McNab And Ryan Produced The Books They Did Nick Rennison