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  • 611 pages
  • Masumiyet Müzesi
  • Orhan Pamuk
  • Arabic
  • 14 February 2015

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  1. Neil Neil says:

    Okay I'm going to tell it as it is  Nobel winning writer aside this book is insufferable  I frankly don't understand the hype the glowing reviews attention from the New Yorker this book is bad  Really badThe story revolves around a privileged man in Istanbul who has a short affair with a shopgirl and proceeds to become completely obsessed with her  So obsessed is he that after the girl marries someone else he ends up sitting at their dinner table for the next 8 yearsWhen Kemal is not hopping around the latest upper class Istanbul hotspots he's becoming an expert kleptomaniac pocketing everything around Füsun's house  He reports back about his activities with glee After having taken all those matchboxes and Fusun's cigarette butts and the saltshakers the coffee cups the hairpins and the barrettes things not difficult to pick up because people rarely notice them missing I began to set my sights on things like ashtrays cups and slippers  Several pages later we find out that during my eight years of going to the Keskins' for supper I was able to suirrel away 4213 of Fusun's cigarette buts  Each one of these had touched her rosy lips and entered her mouth some even touching her tongue and becoming moist shock of all shocks as I would discover when I put my finger on the filter soon after she had stubbed the cigarette out; the stubs reddened by her lovely lipstick bore the uniue impress of her lips at some moment whose memory was laden with anguish or blissThere are plenty of signs that Kemal's obsession is not well received  Going back to cigarette stubbing we find out that sometimes she would stub it out with evident anger sometimes with impatience I had seen her stub out a cigarette in anger many times and this caused me disuietThis might be an interesting storyline if it wasn't the same old hogwash repeating itself for 560 pages  There are entire chapters of this  Allow me to list out some chapter names for you  The Melancholy of Autumn is followed by Cold and Lonely November Days  A few chapters later there is a chapter titled An Indignant and Broken Heart Is of No Use to Anyone  Other reviewers have tried to find beauty in this book by its descriptions of Istanbul in the 1970's  Some have claimed that Pamuk's museum is a commemoration of a time and a place in Istanbul and that the book tries to showcase a lost culture I disagree  Sure there are a few pages scattered here and there about Istanbul and sure the writing does shine in a few small  segments  But the vast majority of the book is about Fusun's lips tears anger family dinners cigarette butts marriage saltshakers eyes expressions and words  These discourses have only the most tangential relation to anything enlightening about 1970's IstanbulThere is a disconcerting conceit about the author when he introduces himself as a character This is how I came to seek out the esteemed Orhan Pamuk who has narrated the story in my name and with my approval I had also heard that he was a man lovingly devoted to his work and who took storytelling seriously  There is a lot self advertising in this book but I won't delve into it  Suffice it to say that I really suffered through this book and would have abandoned it were it not so bad that I spent most of my time thinking about how I would justify such a critical review of such a well hyped book


  2. Irwan Irwan says:

    Additional notes belowOne thing I just realized whenever I am about to finish reading a book usually some sketchy ideas or sentences appear in my mind so that right after I finish it I can just open Goodreads rate the book and write those ideas I am also usually satisfied after writing three or four paragraphs feeling that I have said what I have to say But I can't do that with Pamuk's books The night I finished this book I was sitting at my desk with my hands laid on the closed book I was staring past the glare of my computer screen I smiled Yes I did smile I slept soundly that night too Rather victoriouslyI felt that I had just concluded a life story of a dear friend whom I know so well He was in love A love that tortured him exhilarated him inspired him to do mad things for normal people Normal meaning people who are not in love Reading this book was not all a joyride There were moments when obsession really caught Kemal whom later I called a friend just because I know so much about him that I wanted to slap him in the face and say Wake up Enough already Stop being this pathetic and get a life man Of course he didn't do that I almost stopped reading at this point That is how rich and heavy Pamuk can describe obsessionThen the story took its turn and the mood was changing I was exhausted I read a review somewhere that the love would not end happily as in fairy tales Somehow tragic love story is worth writing so they say So I didn't have much hope for the bright light at the end of the tunnel I just wanted to complete the journey I was prepared for the worst But Pamuk is such a master story teller He didn't just give you a relief from this journey He took you to another path A heroic one A path that only a mad person would take Well mad or brave Or simply in loveThis crazy friend of mine was not set to build a Taj Mahal for his love But a museum A place where Time becomes Space I know I will never look at a museum in the way I used toHumorous element gave an extra flavour to the already rich taste in the last part of the book I like when Pamuk himself appeared on the stage and interacted with his own creations tying up loose ends and wrapping up the story with a victorious last sentence For those who haven't read the book or are still reading it Yes you can take a peek at it first if you want to But I would rather leave it for later Additional noteFinally Michael Silverblatt the host of KCRW Bookworm podcast interviewed Orhan Pamuk So far Silverblatt is the best talk show host for writers Being an avid reader himself his uestions are insightful and often surprising to the writers themselves because he presents a point of view that the writers haven't thought ofYou can listen to the podcast here


  3. Grace Tjan Grace Tjan says:

    I must confess that for the last five years I have had a love and hate relationship with Orhan Pamuk I also had a similar relationship with Charles Dickens but that’s another matter altogether Pamuk’s style is meticulous and ornate intensely introspective sometimes deliberately repetitive shot through with that particular Turkish kind of melancholy called ‘huzun’ At his best his prose achieves a poetic hypnotic uality that makes My Name Is Red such a compelling mesmerizing read But what John Updike described as a Proustian ‘arabesues of introspection’ could also easily devolve into interminable navel gazing that makes wading through his novels such as The White Castle a ponderous undertaking This novel is a mixed bag of both the strengths and weaknesses of his style It begins promisingly enough with a love triangle between Kemal the young scion of one of Istanbul’s wealthiest family Sibel his Sorbonne educated fiancée and Fusun a poor distant relation who happens to be a nubile 18 year old beauty contest finalist Their illicit romance consummated in an empty apartment filled with his mother’s abandoned possessions surely there’s a Freudian subtext here? slowly consumes Kemal’s life and yet he still clings to Sibel who is not only understanding but is also willing to nurse him through lovesickness for her rival This earlier part of the novel is uite compelling although the eroticism occasionally veers towards the graphically icky territory “As our kisses grew even longer a honeyed pool of warm saliva gathered in the great cave that was our mouths combined sometimes leaking a little down our chins” However as Sibel finally gives up on her errant fiancée and Fusun contracts a reputation saving shotgun marriage to an aspiring screenwriter Kemal and the narrative becomes bogged down in a mire of repetitive increasingly self indulgent ruminations This part depicts eight years of the characters’ lives in which the following happens1 Kemal hangs out with Fusun her husband and her parents;2 while with her he is transcendentally moved by some gesture or words from his beloved;3 he steals “collects” things that remind him of such moments such as the soda bottle that she drank from the saltshaker that she used during dinner the ceramic dog figurine that sat on top of her TV cigarette butts all 4213 of them meticulously classified according to how they were crushedetc He then carefully stores these items in the empty apartment and sometimes mouths them when he misses her;4 he makes feeble half hearted attempts at producing a movie in which she is going to star in but is eventually too repulsed by the notion that she will have to do a kissing scene or worse be pawed over by actors and directors that he never goes through with it;5 Fusun pouts and sulks;6 Kemal is devastated;7 repeatThis goes on for hundreds of pages There is a chapter titled ‘Sometimes’ in which every sentence begins with that word which contains nothing but random snippets of their daily life It is cute for one or two pages but exhausting as a chapter length exercise I began to scan the pages How long is this thing going to be on?And then suddenly there was a twist in the story and it became good really good I couldn’t stop reading and hoping I forgave Kemal for being a borderline creep with his ‘collecting’ and I forgave Fusun for being so wrapped up in her acting ambition I wanted them to drive away into the sunset in Kemal’s ’56 Chevrolet and live happily ever after in a Turkish dreamland And it all ends in a sigh a big sighAnd suddenly you understand everything the years of waiting the lifetime of remembering the significance of mundane things the obsession with collecting and why there is a need for so many museums in this world “In poetically well built museums formed from the heart’s compulsions we are consoled not by finding in them old objects that we love but by losing sense of Time”


  4. Elyse Walters Elyse Walters says:

    Wow Update WOW NOTE Some people may think what is she talking about? nails on a chalkboard obsessive? Yes'sometimes'but My God in the best of all ways The writing is beyond gorgeous and the story OMG I own this book Sorry'not' giving it awayWhen I saw that Steve goodreads member was reading the 'not yet' released book A Strangeness in My Mind due out in a couple of days I was a little envious Istanbul A Love letter to a Citynobody could write it better than Orhan Pamuk


  5. Chelsey Chelsey says:

    An extremely tedious depressing read I can honestly say that I read the first 150 pages and then started skimming the rest which I NEVER do since I love reading in search for dialogueIt is so melancholy and slow It reminded me of being in a room with an extremely self absorbed person who blabbers on and on touching the same points over and over again without really any concern if you're listening or not The writing style is also overly detailed describing dry conversations with business associates the Turkish movie industry and one entire chapter was dedicated to a discussion about a clock in Fusun's home Absolutely unnecessary It starts out well enough with an interesting love triangle between Kemal Fusun and Sibel I had high hopes that Kemal would take the high road and do the right thing that is break off his relationship with Sibel right away and start his pursuit of Fusun But NO I did not feel an ounce of compassion for Kemal's plight He was arrogant enough to think himself lucky to have a fiancée and mistress He considered himself as part of an elite group of men happy enough to entertain the thought of having a wife and lover on the side In short WHAT AN ASSHOLE I could see that he loved Fusun or at the very least was infatuated but he didn't respect her enough to do what was right and break off his engagement to Sibel as soon as he started having an affair I felt extremely frustrated that it was Sibel NOT Kemal who eventually broke off the engagement My only consolation is that Kemal later acknowledges that he had been terribly irresponsible Damn rights There was also a significant creep factor to Kemal's obsession with Fusun I can sympathize that a parting gift to remind you of lost love can be soothing But he takes his to a whole new level I hated him describing how he had a pair of her white panties on display in the museum seriously??? Not cool dude And how he'd mouth certain things he stole from her? Ewwww Or how he'd try to imitate her and in some way become Fusun? What a nut job But being the romantic that I am I rooted for them to end up together in the end And when they finally do I was elated This whole depressing awful book had suddenly been worth it And then what happens? Fusun dies I won't give away all the details about how that happens but it left me feeling as if the book had been meaningless Take two irresponsible immature people add sex to the euation and what do you get? An absolute disaster I had been excited to read this book as I would love to see Turkey someday and thought it would be an incredible romance But it ended up being horrible I can't believe this book has received so many 4 or 5 star ratings


  6. Rowena Rowena says:

    “Time had not faded my memories as I had prayed to God it might nor had it healed my wounds as it is said always to do I began each day with the hope that the next day would be better my recollections a little less pointed but I would awake to the same pain as if a black lamp were burning eternally inside me radiating darkness” — Orhan Pamuk The Museum of InnocenceI must say when I first started reading this book I groaned inwardly I had come across it while I was researching the Turkish word huzun melancholia However I’m not a big fan of books with romantic storylines I had my fill as a teen and when I found out this particular romantic storyline was between two cousins Kemal a rich 30 year old who happens to be engaged and 18 year old Fusun a poor shopkeeper I groaned even Kemal is creepy His obsession with Fusun didn’t sound believable at all to me He gets to the point of collecting all of Fusun’s cigarette butts for his museum which is in honour of her as well as other knick knacks I don’t think many men would collect their loved one’s cigarette butts and label them by date collected Kemal reminds me a bit of Bella from Twilight in the sense that he dumps all his friends and family to obsessively mope over his love This particular sort of angst isn’t becoming in someone over the age of 16 The book did have some redeeming points I’ve never read any books set in Turkey before and Pamuk sets the book in an interesting time period the 1970s when Turkey was still traditional but moving towards the modern On top of that there’s the political unrest I think that made the story slightly interesting Discussions on the clashes of cultures between traditional Turkey and modern Turkey including Turkish elites who had been educated in Europe and America were interesting I wish this part had been elaborated because I would have liked a in depth comparisonI got annoyed by the one dimensional portrayal of women I feel that Kemal only fell in love with Fusun because she was beautiful and had entered a beauty pageant Kemal’s fiancée stayed with him despite knowing he cheated Women were obviously looked at as mere trophies Then again that’s true in a lot of places even nowI did get a Proustian feel while reading it The protagonist’s musings were indeed very introspective but obsessive than Proust’s obsessive to a point that they didn’t seem believable I’d say Kemal was definitely absolutely obsessed and extreme but reading his thoughts was interesting Maybe not the best book to read on Christmas day but I'm glad I finally read something by Pamuk


  7. Marieke Marieke says:

    I think this will be a short review because i don't want to give too much away This is probably one of the uniue books i've ever read done completely unpretentiously most of the time i was reading it i was thoroughly swept up in its melancholy atmosphere but as the story began to resolve toward the very end the tone lightened and i happily noted Orhan Pamuk's sense of humor and ability to make fun of himself at least that is how i processed certain things at the end of the bookas a novelized catalog of a very intimate and personal museum the book cleverly documents one man's Kemal tragic attempt to spend his life happily with the one woman Fusün he truly loves the reader knows from the outset that they are aboard a trainwreck but it's never clear despite hints all along the way how the train will ultimately wreck and what will become of Kemal The reader accompanies Kemal in his besotted state followed by obsession and then grief observing with slight discomfort and sadness Kemal's years collecting various objects connected to Fusün in order to feel close to his beloved Although we don't know until the end what becomes of Kemal or how his story got written we do know what becomes of his collected objects They are part of a museum and as we learn his story we are introduced to these objects or perhaps as we are introduced to these objects we learn his story I don't know if the five stars will hold up but i gave it five stars today because i got so entirely wrapped up in the story and so as it reached its resolution i had expected the opposite to be true but i was wrong I also feel terrible that i have yet to read Snow which i have been avoiding since i have been unable to finish My Name is Red and i had heard from several people that Snow is difficult I've been afraid of it But now i really want to read it And everything else that i have yet to read or finish reading by Orhan PamukETA 04122012 Life imitates art and becomes real life art Moved up on my To Do list Visit Istanbul


  8. Vonia Vonia says:

    Orhan Pamuk Why have I waited so long to experience your writing? Because that is what this was An experience The Museum of Innocence has a deceitfully simple premise Kemal Bey from one of the wealthiest prominent families in Turkish society is to be married to the lovely Sibel daughter of a diplomat She is well educated beautiful resourceful well matched for his family even; no one can be anything but ecstatic at their engagement party where they are on display for all of the nouveau riche to see No one that is except for a young lycée graduate from the poor lower class family named Fusun Having met only months ago when Kemal came into the gift store where she is employed for a purse for Sibel the two lovers have since begun a series of rendezvous barely hidden trysts that now started cannot be ended without great pain trials sacrifices Even worse though Kemal through a complex series of cognitive deceptions is not aware of it at the time his attachment to young Fusun has become so rich so deep so fated so obsessive that the groom to be himself shares her sentiments Although Sibel is obviously devastated when she finds out she remains with him for months after trying to support his recovery This of course is not to be His love his obsession with Fusun inevitably leads to the abandonment of his fiancée a near perfect marriagefamily the family company his status in Turkish societies many of his closest friends as he devotes almost another decade winning Fusun back whom is now herself married He visits Fusun four to five times a week for eight years ingratiating himself with her family; they become family to him than his own as the years elapse He even becomes friends then business partners with Fusun's aspiring film director husband Feridun Serving as a cover for his freuent visits to the Kreskin household is his monetary support on Lemon Films which in turn supports an interestingly complex but unstated understanding between Kemal and Feridun whom are both vying for the same young lady; sadly the deeply felt true love is hidden unable to be discussed while the neatly arranged marriage founded on convenience and something closer to an affinity is what everyone openly imagines and acknowledges Reading about Turkish cinema the difficulties with the censor board young stars trying to remain chaste in the harsh eyes of the public; Kemal and Feridun networking in local bars Kemal and Fusun watching both Turkish and international films in classic theaters together first with Feridun then without first as distant cousins that avoid acknowledging each other then looking at each other under the soft glow of lights with as much passion and devotion as any long married husband and wife holding hands with such delicate coyness I was reminded of something akin to Lolita The Unbearable Lightness Of Being Cinema Paradiso Amelie There is whimsy love loyalty unstated values honor and chaste societal expectations secrets obsession mystery and many illogical decisions in the name of love Indeed his life is completely transformed; though his life continues for the most part Kemal Bey lives for one purpose one aim one girl As the love story came to a conclusion I was aware of the thought that this was the first time at least in uite some time that such a detailed complex saga like epic akin storyline was written to conclusion with such perfection It was not necessarily an expected clear neat ending but any ambiguity any decisions the author made that I did not agree with was unable to remove the smile from my face the warm cozy feeling inside as if I had had a warm cup of hot chocolate Then what do you know another part of Kemal's story begins The perfect book gets better He outlines his single minded determination to establish The Museum Of Innocence Pamuk insightfully forays into the psychology of collecting collectors their collections What makes these people pursue such a passion? Is it true that it is always reflective of a psychological flaw? At what point does a respected admired endeavor become an obsession? An unappreciated flaw? Which is correct the proud Western collector whom strives to display there collections for public appreciation? The bashful Non Western collector whom hides it shunned by their peers? A museum connoisseur myself I truly loved reading about all the real life museums andor private collections Kemal visited worldwide as he reflected on his life this far lived for Fusun This is what I cherish about fiction Nonfiction Elitist Readers uestion the value of fiction The right amount of disconnect from real life what they do not realize is necessary for full absorption of topics that may be uninteresting otherwise There is so much to learn uestion explore discover in fiction in ways beautiful than the straight facts of nonfiction can Throughout the main novel Kemal Bey refers to Orhan Pamuk a few times and I loved that an author would put himself in his novel especially when he was sometimes referred to in a negative way A great author should always know how to laugh at himself At the end of The Museum Of Innocence we learn that Kemal Bey hired Pamuk to write what we have finished reading in his voice His aim was to have readers really know his story his Fusun his life As readers a free admission to his Museum has been placed between to paragraphs of text in the last few pages He tells Orhan Pamuk that the last thing that must be included in the book; what the readers need to realize is that he Kemal have lived a good life What brings The Museum Of Innocence to such a level of course is Orhan Pamuk's elegiac incomparable prose To portray so much such visual imagery with seemingly so few words; to describe specific emotions with such preciseness yet elouently At chapters this is a long novel Yet I always found myself desperately looking at the pages on the right side of my hand wishing they would always be than those on my left There are so many passages that I would love to uote here ie 1 Describing the love you can have simple watching someone holding items they once held; 2 The chapter illuminating Kemal Fusun's language of looks how meaningful a look even a non look could be during his eight years visiting her family under the guise of assisting her her husbands' film careers 3 The kinship he discovered in the subculture of collectors touring the world to visit museum after museum of niche collections finding he was not alone 4 The almost story in itself regarding the passage of time how we use time to guide us in conducting our lives as it relates to outside society but to truly live is to live without clocks as they did in Fusun's house for a time but I shall leave those hidden gems for you the next formidable reader of this great novel


  9. Peter Peter says:

    Obsession The Museum of Innocence is a novel developed with significant depth in relation to the main character Kemal and the obsession he has towards a beautiful woman Fusan Kemal never managed to secure a full relationship with Fusan because of his obliged engagement to marry Sibel He always remained infatuated and felt she held his heart The obsession manifested itself through Kemal collecting objects that had a connection with her from cigarette butts to kitchen ware He would collect anything and everything that she encountered as though it harboured her essence which he could derive pleasure fromKemal marries Sibel but he never fully commits his heart in his marriage which he has pledged part of to Fusan He has created this idol which has grown in standing and adoration that in his own mind is far superior to the reality This is actually really sad and I do think could have been made of his wife's feelings and what she contended with throughout their marriageOver the years Kemal collects so many items that he finally establishes a museum of memorabilia devoted to Fusan A Museum of Innocence Or a Museum of Impotence Depending on your grip of reality Kemal is a very frustrating person and someone that I have very little empathy with While we don't have to love every character in a story it's very difficult to connect with the story when you dislike ALL the characters On a positive note I appreciate the opportunity to look into the mind of someone so different and wonder was his conscious and subconscious mind a driving force to hold onto something OR fear of letting go? So are you intrigued or frustrated are you inspired or unimpressed or are you wondering what other books I could have read during the time it took to read this 752 page monster? The writing is never in uestion and it conveys an imaginary into Istanbul that is wonderful and atmospheric The level of detail of places and people is remarkable and while I’ve never been it conveys the cultural and material clash between the West and the Middle East especially with the affluent of societyPersonally I couldn't recommend this book and I've often wondered why I saw it through Maybe this was the book that convinced me that Not Finishing a book is a legitimate decision


  10. Gearóid Gearóid says:

    It was uite an experience reading this bookAt one stage i almost abandoned it as i just hadtoo much of Kemal's obsession and it was getting a bit tiresomeHoweverwhile i was not reading the book and moved on to other books i keep thinking about it and realised it was beautifully writtenThe descriptions of Istanbul life in the 1970's and 1980's were so brilliantI would be having a coffee in my local cafewet and damp and indoors and would start thinking about Istanbul and the warm feeling i got when reading about drinking raki or Turkish Tea on the Bosphorus in the sunshineHow cool is thatI could almost smell the Turkish teaThe only writer who effected me like that before was Hemingway althoughtheir styles are totally differentKemal's obsession with Fusun and his robbing of little knick knacks was a bit tiresome but i am really glad i did not abandon the book and returned to complete itOrhan Pamuk is some writerYou can see he really loves his country and his people and really goes to great lengths to let you understand Istanbul and the Turkish peopleIt must have taken a lot of energy to write a book like thisI really loved this book and have three Orhan Pamuk books lined up ready to go


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Masumiyet Müzesi[PDF / Epub] ✅ Masumiyet Müzesi By Orhan Pamuk – Thomashillier.co.uk لسنوات طويلة ظل أورهان باموق يتلقى هذا السؤال هل أنت كمال؛ بطل روايتك متحف البراءة؟وعندما جاء الوقت ليفتتح كا لسنوات طويلة ظل أورهان باموق يتلقى هذا السؤال هل أنت كمال؛ بطل روايتك متحف البراءة؟وعندما جاء الوقت ليفتتح كاتب نوبل التركي الأشهر متحفًا على الضفة الأوروبية للبوسفور يحمل اسم روايته، قرر أخيرًا أن يجيب قائلًا نعم، أنا أيضًا قضيت طفولتي وشبابي في الفترة بين عامي و ، وترعرعت وسط أبناء الطبقة البرجوازية في نيشان طاش وفيما بعد، كمال وأنا تعرضنا للنبذ من الطبقة التي ننتمي إليها للدقة، تم إسقاطنا خارجها كمال بسبب عشقه لفسون، وأنا بسبب حبي للأدب ووضعي السياسي وكلانا لسنا نادمينمتحف البراءة قبل كل شيء فكرة حول العشق قصة حب مستحيلة تجمع بين كمال المنحدر من الطبقة الأرستقراطية لإسطنبول في سبعينيات القرن العشرين، وفسون الفتاة الفقيرة التي تربطه بها صلة قرابة بعيدةتتجاوز التفاصيل حدود الغرام التقليدي، لتكشف حيرة الإنسان بين ثقافة الشرق والغرب، دون معزل عن التغيرات الاجتماعية والسياسية التي أحاطت بإسطنبول في هذا الوقت، وتركت أثرًا عميقًا حتى في قصص العشاق.


About the Author: Orhan Pamuk

Orhan Pamuk was born in Istanbul in and grew up in a large family similar to those which he describes in his novels Cevdet Bey and His Sons and The Black Book in the wealthy westernised district of Nisantasi As he writes in his autobiographical book Istanbul from his childhood until the age of he devoted himself largely to painting and dreamed of becoming an artist After graduating fro.