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Pornography: Men Possessing Women ❰KINDLE❯ ❅ Pornography: Men Possessing Women Author Andrea Dworkin – Thomashillier.co.uk This volume presents a study of the damaging effect of pornography and its ramifications on society This volume presents a study of the damaging effect of pornography and its ramifications on society.

  • Paperback
  • 300 pages
  • Pornography: Men Possessing Women
  • Andrea Dworkin
  • English
  • 27 February 2019
  • 0525485171

About the Author: Andrea Dworkin

Andrea Rita Dworkin was an American radical feminist and writer best known for her criticism of pornography, which she argued was linked to rape and other forms of violence against womenAn anti war activist and Pornography: Men ePUB ½ anarchist in the late s, Dworkin wrote books on radical feminist theory and practice During the late s and the s, she gained national fame as a spokeswoman for the feminist anti pornography movement, and for her writing on pornography and sexuality, particularly inPornography Men Possessing Women andIntercourse , which remain her two most widely known books.



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  1. Warwick Warwick says:

    Andrea Dworkin, Pornography Men Possessing Women, 1989Wendy McElroy,

  2. Adam Adam says:

    The most cynical use of women has been on the Left cynical because the word freedom is used to capture the loyalties of women who want,than anything, to be free and who are then valued and used as left wing whores collectivized cunts Andrea Dworkin.Yeah, Andrea Dworkin is the shit See, for proof, the chapter in which she exposes the ludicrous treatment of deSade by intellectuals, the countless attempts to exonerate not the writer but the man of his crimes, while ignoring his victims e The most cynical use of women has been on the Left cynical because the word freedom is used to capture the loyalties of women who want,than anything, to be free and who are then valued and used as left wing whores collectivized cunts Andrea Dworkin.Yeah, Andrea Dworkin is the shit See, for proof, the chapter in which she exposes the ludicrous treatment of deSade by intellectuals, the countless attempts to exonerate not the writer but the man of his crimes, while ignoring his victims entirely See, for proof, the way Dworkin reveals what an utter joke it is that Hugh Hefner is anything but another exploitative pimp I m writing this on a Saturday night It s 9 44 PM as I write these words As a not hideous male in his twenties who lives right by the veritable meat market known as Vancouver s Granville Strip, I am expected to be getting ready to go out on the prowl, looking to deposit my seed in some not hideous female in her twenties The not hideous female will have shopped specifically for club wear, will have spent hours on her makeup and on ensuring her legs are free of any hair and that her pussy looks sufficiently prepubescent and that the hair on her head is sufficiently alluring I am expected to go out there and buy her alcohol aka the world s favourite date rape drug , and play mental games with her aka seduction , and this is meant to lead to us both getting laid aka having utterly meaningless sex that somehow exceeds the emptiest masturbation in sheer loneliness And most of the above would take place against the background of the processed into oblivion voice of a young woman whose stage shows are identical to stripteases, except in that they are without even the burlesque or radical tendencies of some striptease A woman, now a commodity, whose lyrics consist of various mantras of sexual freedom probably written by male professional songwriters Alternatively, the background music is the swaggering bragging of a young male who really, truly seems to believe that he exists to find as many free women to drug and fuck and dump as possible Welcome to porn culture This is what counts as freedom Freedom is the mass marketing of woman as whore Free sexuality for the woman is in being massively consumed, denied an individual nature, denied any sexual sensibility other than that which serves the male Capitalism is not wicked or cruel when the commodity is the whore profit is not wicked or cruel when the alienated worker is a female piece of meat corporate bloodsucking is not wicked or cruel when the corporations in questionsell cunt racism is not wicked or cruel when the black cunt or yellow cunt or red cunt or Hispanic cunt or Jewish cunt has her legs splayed for any man s pleasure The new pornography is left wing and the new pornography is a vast graveyard where the Left has gone to die The Left cannot have its whores and its politics too Andrea Dworkin But wait a minute the not hideous female I m meant to hook up with does not regard herself as a piece of meat She believes, on some level, that she s like the hot pop star, twerking her way into an embrace of femininity and her own sexuality She would laugh at what Dworkin has to say She wants to strut her stuff, drive the cute boys wild, have a wild night out Wait a minute the not hideous male, despite his feelings on all this, kind of wants to go out and stick his dick in the not hideous female, who makes herself so available to him He wonders what he s doing at home on a Saturday night, having recently experienced the end of a not quite relationship He, or at least what William T Vollmann calls Mr Penis, wants to get his dick wet Mr Penis says to the better part of him hey, when you went out to grab smokes earlier, did you see all those fucking whores You know at least one of them would suck your dick tonight And Mr Penis is right Except he s not morally right And here s where we find out that Mr Penis counterpart is Mr Self Righteous This guy says goddamnit, fuck people who think morality shouldn t matter Fuck people who think we shouldn t judge Mr Penis for his desires and his frequent taking advantage of not hideous women s sexual and emotional insecurities Fuck people who think that s just how things are and we shouldn t strive to be better than that I m better than that And so Mr Penis and Mr Self Righteous have a little internal battle within the non self of the not hideous male.The not hideous female dances away, makes out with guys she s never going to go home with, doesn t make out with the one guy she will go home with The not hideous male realizes that, after a while, he loses track of what the not hideous female s thinking inside her head And he realizes that maybe he had no idea what she was thinking to begin with, but just figured that it kinda made sense because of a few facts about her appearance.And then he realizes that it s not unfathomable to think that she also has no idea what s going on in his head, that she s also constructed bullshit fantasies about his thoughts That every girl he s fucked for the sole purpose of fucking has had this whole thing play out in her head about his wants and his desires and his ideals and what it means to him or doesn t mean to him that he fucked her That they are both probably on some weird auto pilot ritual.And that what they ve played out is, to a frightening extent, conditioned by a culture and by systems that see him as what s there to fuck and her as what s there to get fucked and that have told them that this is what sexual freedom is to embrace the fucking and to ignore any of the seriousness of it and to roll their eyes at the few people who think it s serious To roll their eyes at the epidemics of STIs, at the emotional malaise, at people who believe love can exist And that neither of them experienced, even for a second, anything resembling what freedom felt like the few times they ve experienced something like real freedom That they ve both, but especially the male, been exposed to pornography that sends these messages over and over and over and over again for cumulative hours That there is no way to be certain that they re actually smart or strong or free willed enough to be able to state with anything resembling certainty that they haven t been influenced by the pornographic culture they live in And this is what the not hideous male knows that he really likes that he has so many options, so many liberated women to fuck, so many whores who comply with what corporations sell to them in the guise of freedom that Mr Self Righteous is the merely the other side of the dick, the flaccid side, that Mr Penis always wins out when he s hard And that he doesn t just like actually fucking women who conveniently buy into the notion that freedom means being the perfect male fantasy he also likes jerking off to them in porn And that, to some extent, Mr Penis is always going to be pro pornography That Mr Penis is welcome in most circles, even those on the Left, the supposedly enlightened Left that embraces people s right to do whatever they want with their own bodies and that anything between two consenting adults is perfectly fine And that two consenting adults are in fact consenting while they re playing out this weird drugged ritual of desperate sad fucking I m young I must fuck If I m single, I get horny, I watch porn, I jerk off, I see the woman on the street, I want to fuck her Mr Penis is so goddamn happy that she complies with my wish to fuck and then ignore her because I don t want to deal with the difficult shit, because commodity culture has taught me that not only are my laptops and iPhones and pizza boxes there for easy consumption and to be disposed of later but also people are there to use and then dispose of.And what s really insidious about this last thing is that unlike the phones and other bullshit, I m not even made to feel guilty about fucking somebody then ignoring them This is supposed to be liberated Hey, man, she also used you, they say And that s supposed to make it alright Hey, you re not bound by ideas of monogamy or any sort of intimacy any, you re not expected to actually give a shit about anyone, you re being free, just like you re free to consume everything else Because you don t have time for intimacy you have to get up and go to work so you can buy shit and you re too tired to care about people when you get home at night So they re entertainment now, like your TV and your internet Freedom This is what sexual freedom as we ve painted it seems to be the freedom to be as uncaring, as callous, as stupid about sex as you are about everything else The freedom to make sex as meaningless as everything else And if someone points out that it s meaningless, what you re doing, you can say get in touch with your body Embrace your sexuality And what Dworkin gets at is that this is all very, very convenient for men Most dudes are perfectly fine with all this The boys are betting on our compliance, our ignorance, our fear We have always refused to face the worst that men have done to us The boys count on it The boys are betting that we cannot face the horror of their sexual system and survive The boys are betting that their depictions of us as whores will beat us down and stop our hearts The boys are betting that their penises and fists and knives and fucks and rapes will turn us into what they say we are the compliant women of sex, the voracious cunts of pornography, the masochistic sluts who resist because we really wantThe boys are betting The boys are wrong Andrea Dworkin You know what I think Dworkin s arguments are often not arguments at all I think she knowingly stretches the limits of truth on a frequent basis I think she misrepresents things frequently I think she s way in the wrong that male sexuality violence, rape I think she s way in the wrong in equating de Sade with the purest essence of male sexuality In fact, I don t think she gets men at all, or understands what our deal is But why should she bother caring Why shouldn t she write something this rhetorically brilliant Fuck the questions It s good that this book exists It s good that Dworkin isn t writing some deeply intellectual argument about the psychology of pornography It s good that this is as emotionally honest and as brutal and as visceral as it is If I hadn t written so much already I might try to analyze this book s rhetoric and get at why it s so goddamn perfect as a piece of writing and as an appeal for real justice Because no matter how many cases and how many things counter Dworkin s arguments, she is absolutely right in the deepest sense about everything she says here about porn and about what it means And she s morally in the right, too Who reads this and thinks hey, but insert not molested addicted porn girl here seems to be having fun The book s not an attack on any one porn performer or director or producer It s an expose of pornography It s one of few grand attempts to cut through all the bullshit.And there s so much bullshit And while no part of my conscious self enjoys women being ignorant or fearful, while no part of my conscious self is betting on fists and knives and fucks and rapes winning out over calls for freedom, while no part of my conscious self wants to beat women down and stop their hearts, Mr Penis is perfectly happy with how much he encounters the compliant women of sex, the voracious cunts of pornography, the masochistic sluts And from my male perspective, which is the only perspective I can write from or claim to speak for on any level, Dworkin got at something in me that is neither Mr Self Righteous nor Mr Penis, but something that neither makes over the top empty moralizing gestures nor something that just wants to fuck voracious cunts Dworkin got at something deeply empathetic, an aspect of my male self that acknowledges with deep horror that Dworkin isn t some screaming hysterical banshee but just one of the few people who had the guts to point out all the delusional shit and sexual impulse justifying crap we love to revel in I don t know that the boys are betting, at least maybe not consciously for most of us But shit, I sure hope the boys are wrong And if I haven t lost a bunch of friends already I might now lose some what s valuable on, I guess, a sort of literary level about Dworkin is that she gets somewhat profoundly at the combat between the sexes She deals with that scary, scary thing that none of us male or female seem to want to confront And here s what might lose me some friends a lot of Dworkin s writing here is the female counter to the way Hemingway wrote about relationships with women I don t think Hemingway hated women, by the way And I don t think he was endorsing the way his male characters thought about them I think he was being fucking honest about the way things tend to be, which is really sad and also really hard to reduce to biology or social conditioning or whatever the fuck And I think Dworkin s being honest in the same really, really fucking rare way And given the history of patriarchy, it matters wayto listen to the female side of that honesty

  3. Cher Cher says:

    While I don t agree with Dworkin s position that the state should censor all pornographic images that depict violence or non consensuality against women, I do agree that the issue needs to be brought up that pornography is often the pschological training camp for male sexuality It s what boys can get their hands on before they get a chance to actually learn how to do physical intimacy Somewhere in there lies the responsibility of male elders to teach that fantasy is okay but must not be confus While I don t agree with Dworkin s position that the state should censor all pornographic images that depict violence or non consensuality against women, I do agree that the issue needs to be brought up that pornography is often the pschological training camp for male sexuality It s what boys can get their hands on before they get a chance to actually learn how to do physical intimacy Somewhere in there lies the responsibility of male elders to teach that fantasy is okay but must not be confused with reality And the fact that so much violent porn against women is consumed in disproportionate amount to other types does need to be examined It signals a sickness in the culture that needs to be addressed I don t agree with the people who are so upset with Dworkin for going legal that they refuse to even listen to her points I don t agree with going legal about everything, but I do think she makes compelling arguments that address serious and seriously ignored issues

  4. Rus Funk Rus Funk says:

    One of the first books that I read of Andrea and a book that mobilized me on my path from pornography consumer to anti pornography activist and leader One of the many brilliant and truly life changing books I ve read from Andrea

  5. Ben Ben says:

    Everything in life is part of it Nothing is off in its own corner, isolated from the rest While on the surface this may seem self evident, the favorite conceit of male culture is that experience can be fractured, literally its bones split, and that one can examine the splinters as if they were not part of the bone, or the bone as if it were not part of the body This conceit replicates in its values and methodology the sexual reductionism of the male and is derived from it Everything is split Everything in life is part of it Nothing is off in its own corner, isolated from the rest While on the surface this may seem self evident, the favorite conceit of male culture is that experience can be fractured, literally its bones split, and that one can examine the splinters as if they were not part of the bone, or the bone as if it were not part of the body This conceit replicates in its values and methodology the sexual reductionism of the male and is derived from it Everything is split apart intellect from feeling and or body Some part substitutes for the whole and the whole is sacrificed to the part So the scientist can work on bomb or virus, the artist on poem, the photographer on picture, with no appreciation of its meaning outside itself and even reduce each of these things to an abstract element that is part of its composition and focus on that abstract element and nothing else literally attribute meaning to or discover meaning in nothing else In the mid twentieth century, the post Holocaust world, it is common for men to find meaning in nothing nothing has meaning Nothing is meaning In prerevolutionary Russia, men strained to be nihilists it took enormous effort In this world, here and now, after Auschwitz, after Hiroshima, after Vietnam, after Jonestown, men need not strain Nihilism, like gravity, is a law of nature, male nature The men, of course, are tired It has been an exhausting perioed of extermination and devastation, on a scale genuinely new, with new methods, new possibilities Even when faced with the probable extinction of themselves at their own hand, men refuse to look at the whole, take all the causes and all the effects into account, perceive the intricate connections between the world they make and themselves They are alienated, they say, from this world of pain and torment they make romance out of this alienation so as to avoid taking responsibility for what they do and what they are Male dissociation from life is not new or particularly modern, but the scale and intensity of this disaffection are new And in the midst of this Brave New World, how comforting and familiar it is to exercise passionate cruelty on women The old fashioned values still obtain The world may end tomorrow, but tonight there is a rape a kiss, a fuck, a pat on the ass, a fist in the face In the intimate world of men and women, there is no mid twentieth century distinct from any other century There are only the old values, women there for the taking, the means of taking determined by the male It is ancient and it is modern it is feudal, capitalist, socialist it is caveman and astronaut, agricultural and industrial, urban and rural For men, the right to abuse women is elemental, the first principle, with no beginning unless one is willing to trace origins back to God and with no end plausibly in sight For men, their right to control and abuse the bodies of women is the one comforting constant in a world rigged to blow up but they do not know when.

  6. Allison Allison says:

    I started writing down favorite lines from this and eventually realized I d be copying damn near the whole book But how can one resist with lines like this A bible piling up its code for centuries, a secret corpus gone public, a private corpus gone political, pornography is the male s sacred stronghold, a monastic retreat for manhood on the verge of its own destruction and We will know we are free when pornography no longer exists As long as it does exist, we must understand that we are th I started writing down favorite lines from this and eventually realized I d be copying damn near the whole book But how can one resist with lines like this A bible piling up its code for centuries, a secret corpus gone public, a private corpus gone political, pornography is the male s sacred stronghold, a monastic retreat for manhood on the verge of its own destruction and We will know we are free when pornography no longer exists As long as it does exist, we must understand that we are the women in it used by the same power, subject to the same valuation, as the vile whores who beg forShe describes pornography in here that s positively pedestrian by today s standards If she were writing this today, she d be describing our average fashion print ad or soda pop commercial 4 stars because of the slow parts, which are made slow because she often repeats the same descriptors and or ideas in multiple sentences in a row, like her brilliant, magnificent brain got stuck for a minute

  7. Dna Dna says:

    It would be awkward to star rate anything by Andrea Dworkin, since I don t think of myself as having enjoyed the subject matters she deals with BUT, everything I read by her was disturbing, new, mind bending, powerful, and sometimes plain ridiculous I didn t and don t agree with everything Dworkin, but her writing definitely had a huge impact on my early interest in mass media and pornography s impact on the mainstream.

  8. Lost_Clown Lost_Clown says:

    My first introduction to feminist opposition to pornography The details and the passion of her work are inspiring and paints a realistic portrait of the harm that pornography does to women and our culture.

  9. Pippa Pippa says:

    Thank heaven for this clear sighted woman who could see the impact of porn, although I think she makes the mistake of thinking it is only women who suffer as a result of it Perhaps that is because we are nowinformed This was an important book, even if, to me, written in a slightly woolly style.

  10. Sophia Sophia says:

    Reading Pornography Men Possessing Women was tricky Its large print title attracted unwanted attention on a Greyhound bus trip, and it made me slightly and entirely unjustifiably apprehensive of the friend I was on said bus trip to visit, simply because he happened to be male Nonetheless, I was glad I read this treatise against pornography by one of the major thinkers of second wave feminism She s passionate, angry, and articulate against what she sees as the essence of patriarchal society a Reading Pornography Men Possessing Women was tricky Its large print title attracted unwanted attention on a Greyhound bus trip, and it made me slightly and entirely unjustifiably apprehensive of the friend I was on said bus trip to visit, simply because he happened to be male Nonetheless, I was glad I read this treatise against pornography by one of the major thinkers of second wave feminism She s passionate, angry, and articulate against what she sees as the essence of patriarchal society and how it harms women in fundamentally entrenched ways However, reading Dworkin drives one into an us against them mentality which I don t find constructive or reflective of my daily life Pornography is pornographic, as Dworkin graphically describes specific examples of pornography before dissecting what is wrong with it Her analysis is very literal, taking images on at face value, against which third wave feminists try to injectsubtlety and complexity I thought the chapter on the Marquis de Sade and her criticism of left wing men especially intriguing as these escape how Dworkin could be summarized in a nutshell Ultimately, I am glad how reading this furthered my feminist self education

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