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Startide Rising ❮PDF / Epub❯ ☁ Startide Rising Author David Brin – Thomashillier.co.uk David Brin's Uplift novels are among the most thrilling and extraordinary science fiction ever written Sundiver Startide Rising and The Uplift War a New York Times bestseller together make up one of t David Brin's Uplift novels are among the most thrilling and extraordinary science fiction ever written Sundiver Startide Rising and The Uplift War a New York Times bestseller together make up one of the most beloved sagas of all time Brin's tales are set in a future universe in which no species can reach sentience without being uplifted by a patron race But the greatest mystery of all remains unsolved who uplifted humankindThe Terran exploration vessel Streaker has crashed in the uncharted water world of Kithrup bearing one of the most important discoveries in galactic history Below a handful of her human and dolphin crew battles armed rebellion and a hostile planet to safeguard her secret the fate of the Progenitors the fabled First Race who seeded wisdom throughout the stars.


10 thoughts on “Startide Rising

  1. Bradley Bradley says:

    I've been reading this book over the decades and I can still honestly say that it's both timely and timeless in its ideas its story and its characters That's even taking into account that most SF eventually dates itself or becomes a humorous example of just how much we all eventually learnThis one doesn't suffer at all Since the eighties this still remains a mind blowing and fantastic space opera of the kind I still have yet compare anything else as favorably Even among Brin's other Uplift novelsIt's simple really It's a chase novel The particulars however are wildly divergent from anything else I've ever read Uplifted dolphin crew with a chimp geologist and a handful of humans made an accidental discovery of galactic proportions and after sending a brief description of fifty world sized ancient spaceships belonging to the first galactic race to have begun the uplift process for the many many alien races filling the galaxy to the brim Earth replies Oh Shit Run Run All the races have their own legends about the progenitors and their eventual return and most of the vilest are religious fanatics that warp reality or cruelly alter genetics of their subordinate races to atrocious effect And since they picked up on this little tidbit they're ALL after the humans Besieging Earth all our colonies and sending the weight of entire armies after the poor hapless dolphin crewWhat an epic setup and this is where the novel begins They've already escaped a few close calls but crash land on a fallow world and pray that the battling aliens in the system above wipe each other out And in the meantime we've got great dolphin and human characters and one asshole geologist who may or may not be redeemable assuming we take away his mini atom bombs and tell him he may NOT study the new planet's structure while they're trying to hide from the galactic crazies There's so much to say about this novel and so many great things happen but I do want to mention a few things The whale songs and the poetry of the hybrid humandolphin speech It's all poetry How often do we get poetry in our space operas? We've got serious ideas about uplfting our earthly relatives too Even dogs are on the docket The dolphins have waldos for delicate work with arms and fingers Mr Dart may climb trees but he's from a widely respected school And the captain of the Streaker is a really brilliant dolphin I feel the most sorry for what happens to himThe action in this tale may be as small as simple survival on a rough world the reveals about the strange state of this planet or the creatures living there or even a great deal of action breaking down the basic decency of some of the dolphin crew until they revert to a slightly less civilized state Or we could focus on the big action with spaceships blowing up and crashing into the planet Either way the novel is great on all levelsIt's stood the test of time being a great tale with great characters fantastic language and conflicts and especially an absolutely amazing amount of beautiful world or galaxy building I always thought of this one as the gold standard for all big idea and action SF And it still is


  2. Mario the lone bookwolf Mario the lone bookwolf says:

    One of the most interesting ideas in this second part of the series is the evolution of language the forming of its complex meaning and how culture defines how the habitat is perceived and described And dolphins rock Some thoughts about the evolution of language and different ways to communicateHumans adapted to many environments with special words cults and worshipping standing out elements of nature Animals may develop similar attitudes and the difference between a conscious ant and a sensible reptile are immenseIn the case of animals without organs of speech mimic and gesture may develop to the complexity of a language in combination with the uick chameleon and octopus colour changesEven that may not be necessary if state building insects develop and complex hormone and smell controlling abilities that go so far to be used in conversations between intelligent individuals of a stateTake biology any kind of communication process and just mix it with evolution genetic engineering and a bit if technical integration and so many ways to babble trivia can be imaginedTropes show how literature is conceived and which mixture of elements makes works and genres uniue


  3. unknown unknown says:

    A good way to illustrate the utter failure of the Star Wars preuels on just about every level of storytelling imaginable is to ask someone to describe the characters without talking about their jobs or their costumes Come on try it ueen Amidala Oh she looks like a Kabuki wait no She's the ueen I'm sorry Um her hair She's normal? The characters in Startide Rising suffer in much the same fashion Aside from the fact that they are of different species not much differentiates the crew members human dolphin scientist dolphin scientist Chimpanzee This is an issue considering the book is told in alternating point of view chapters from a dozen or so different characters of several speciesYou are probably confused already How can you write a book where some characters are dolphins and some characters are human and you can't really tell them apart? Well if David Brin is any kind of example you write it rather poorly and then you win every major genre award for it I should totally tryOnce again I am being an ass This is one of those sci fi books the ones where you remember why a lot of people hold their noses when they walk by the genre shelves in Barnes Noble note insert funny joke about fat unshowered nerds here later Comic Book Guy reference? It has some really cool intriguing ideas driving the narrative It also has a cyborg dolphin on the cover And it is really rough to read on a sentence by sentence level loaded with tiresome exposition clumsy world building absolutely atrocious dialogue juvenile sexual contentSo then I simultaneously really didn't like reading it and enjoyed the heck out of it The premise is certainly audacious in Galactic history no race has ever achieved sentience and spaceflight without being uplifted by a patron race except for humans who even managed to perform a few uplifts of their own creating super intelligent dolphins to pilot their spaceships For some reasonEven though being a dolphin doesn't seem to change how a character thinks in comparison to a human Brin still puts a lot of effort into developing their society Like everything else about this book I am of two minds about this element I respect the lengths Brin goes to and yet I find his choices incredibly silly and annoying For example the dolphins have been genetically modified to speak English screw it I don't care Anglic but the language gives them pause so they stutter So all their dialogue has extra consonants Which is still preferable to their native tongue Trinany which is obviously Flipper type screeches which it turns out are actually when translated uite poetic and haiku like There are a bunch of humans who can speak Trinary too and I am really glad they never made this into the movie that was planned in the '80s because it would be even ridiculous if I had to see it rather than just roll my eyes as I read about itOne thing I did appreciate was the surprisingly limited scope of the story; despite the length the plot is this ship is damaged in a firefight ship crashes on a waterworld thank goodness and must be repaired and any escape must avoid the now warring factions of the various pursuers that are hanging out in orbit I liked it mostly because it resulted in a 100 page climactic actionescape seuence that managed to be the most interesting part of the book I did not it because it also provided lots of pages for narrative dead ends and dolphin sex scenes which aren't the selling point you might imagine At least not for me


  4. Clouds Clouds says:

    Christmas 2010 I realised that I had got stuck in a rut I was re reading old favourites again and again waiting for a few trusted authors to release new works Something had to be doneOn the spur of the moment I set myself a challenge to read every book to have won the Locus Sci Fi award That’s 35 books 6 of which I’d previously read leaving 29 titles by 14 authors who were new to meWhile working through this reading list I got married went on my honeymoon switched career and became a father As such these stories became imprinted on my memory as the soundtrack to the happiest period in my life so farNew book?YeahGood?YeahWhat’s it about?Space dolphinsWhat like dolphins swimming in space?Don’t be silly Dolphins flying spaceships filled with waterOh Sounds coolI knowSometimes it’s easy to make me happy Startide Rising is the second book in David Brin’s Uplift Saga The first Sundiver is nothing to write home about but this one was a runaway critical success – taking the Locus Hugo and Nebula awards in 1984 the year I was born The Uplift concept offers a superb backstory and a galactic framework with a huge amount of potential see Sundiver review I’m not sure Brin takes full dramatic advantage of what he’s created can you imagine the Uplift universe in the hands of Peter Hamilton or Dan Simmons? – but what Brin does create is a tremendously enjoyable adventure if you’re not too cynicalMankind has uplifted chimps and dolphins to sentience The Streaker is an exploration ship crewed and captained for the first time primarily with dolphins They discover something big coincidence time shhh ancient valuable and powerful Word gets out and suddenly every bug eyed alien wants a piece of Streaker They run hide and crash on a water world While they try to repair and escape the different ET factions scrap it out in orbit for the right to capture Captain Flipper and his arcane treasure It’s a bit ‘sci fi light’ but golly gee it made me smile The writing isn’t amazing but the characters are likeable the action fast paced and gripping the scenario imaginative and the book skips along in uick tasty little chaptersBrin does use a lot of perspectives both within the crew and between the various hostiles in orbit – some people may find this off putting – but it wasn’t a problem for me I loved the little snapshots of the different alien ships I loved the different dolphin crewmembers I wasn’t half as fond of the human crew been there done that – give me dolphins Startide Rising is my favourite book of The Uplift Saga – it’s probably a 35 affectionately rounded up to a 4 – but definitely worth checking out Just keep your expectations in check – this is a fun book but not a brilliantly written book


  5. Silvana Silvana says:

    I don't know how to rate it 4 or 5 It's 45 but I'll give an extra 05 for the dolphins It has everything I want from adventure cool action scenes included compelling characters very fascinating world building And the setting itself makes it a winner I need to read Uplift stuff


  6. Diane Diane says:

    I enjoyed this uite a bit and raced through it especially given I don’t have much alone time to listen to books The narrator was painful slow and deliberate so I was able to boost the speed to 16x original speed I found that if my attention wandered I tended to miss things like from whose POV the chapter was written Then as a result I was often confused about what was going on This book tested my usual lack of visualization and forced me to do so which is not necessarily a bad thing but it wasn’t helping my general confusion Maybe I should’ve listened to it slower Or maybe it’s just a book that I should’ve eye read At any rate I enjoyed the interpersonal relationships among the crew of the Streaker and it was eye opening how the Galactic patrons treated their patrons Especially now


  7. Guillermo Guillermo says:

    I just couldn't get into this enough to merit me reading over a hundred pages to get to the conclusion I have no problem using different points of view to tell a story ala GRRM but if the characters aren't in any way engaging and have no personalities to speak of it just becomes a jarring and disconnected experience This is the second Uplift novel I read the first being Sundiver and while I love the concept and the universe of Uplift concept alone is not enough to keep my interest for 300 pagesSadly I really do want to know what happens to the crew of the Streaker What happens to the injured Captain? Do they get off that planet and escape the nefarious aliens fighting over them? What exactly does that ghost fleet mean to the galaxy and what's up with that weird alien corpse they found? I'll just have to head over to Wikipedia for a plot summaryUnfortunately Mr Brin is full of great ideas but is bereft of the ability to execute them into a truly engaging experience


  8. Christopher Christopher says:

    Undoubtedly one of the stupidest books I've ever read I'm not sure what's worst the talking dolphins who can smile the chimpanzee planetologist who smokes a pipe I think the horribly written dialog the fact that the aliens are believable characters than the humans or the fact that somebody thought it would be a great idea to use dolphins to run starships since as we know such a large percentage of planets have water on them that obviously we want auatic creatures who can go out and swim as explorers in the obviously safe and un bacteriologically contaminated waters of said plentiful water worldsAnd you thought the Postman was bad


  9. Gabi Gabi says:

    It had a lot of great ideas with the uplift theory the progenitors the library the dolphin society the interaction of Terran uplifted species the multitude of non Terran species and their features the biology of the waterplanet spacebattle ground battle romance stuff introspection genetic experiments whale dreaming etcBut what perhaps already can be seen by the recital above it was too much crammed into the story Carefully plotted the ideas in this book would have made for certainly 5 other novels For example I would have loved to get to know the different species better that fought around the planet and who freuently were referred to as 'monsters' which was another uite jarring point Brin touched extremely interesting topics of their evolution social structures reality perception but they felt like some dearly longed for drops of water on a hot stone Too much introspection and exposition in this way on the Terran species side way too many POVs all the chance to write yet another introspection some of them only had one or two chapters what for? when there was no real sense to yet again change the POVI also would have loved to see discussion about the downside of an approach of playing god deciding whom to genetically alter to make them ' intelligent' without their consent Eg Dolphins were deemed to be worthy of uplifting while the higly intelligent octopi were used as food There was one really good chapter on this topic as the uplifted chimpanzee geologist mused about it and about tokenism in an introspection what else? More of that would have been greatIt took me a lot longer to read listen through this book than it usually takes for this number of pages because I couldn't manage to entirely get involved in the Story There were parts that had my attention and then it drifted againGreat idea left me wanting in the execution


  10. Stephen Stephen says:

    35 stars A science fiction classic that doesn't uite live up to the title of masterpiece The concept of uplifting and the manner in which David Brin incorporates it into the universe he has created in these novels is brilliant and definitely worth checking out Writing is just okay Still great world building fascinating aliens and a pretty good plot Not Brin's best but worth reading RecommendedWinner Hugo Award for Best Science Fiction Novel 1984Winner Nebula Award for Best Science Fiction Novel 1984Winner Locus Award for Best Science Fiction Novel 1984Named to Locus All Time Poll for Best Science Fiction Novel #16


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