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The Jesus Incident ➽ The Jesus Incident Download ➺ Author Frank Herbert – Thomashillier.co.uk A determined group of colonists are attempting to establish a bridgehead on the planet Pandora, despite the savagery of the native lifeforms, as deadly as they are inhospitable But they have to deal w A determined group of colonists are attempting to establish a bridgehead on the planet Pandora, despite the savagery of the native lifeforms, as deadly as they are inhospitable But they have to deal with than just murderous aliens their ship s computer has been given artificial consciousness and has decided that it is a God Now it is insisting with all the not inconsiderable force of The Jesus PDF/EPUB ² its impressive array of armaments to back it up that the colonists find appropriate ways to worship It.


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  1. Kelly H. (Maybedog) Kelly H. (Maybedog) says:

    This is my favorite book of all time I ve read it numerous times and own several copies although it s out of print I gave a little seminar thing on it once I tried to use it as the foundation of my Master s thesis but my advisor said there was too much to say about it and to save it for my PhD And yet I can t review it Perhaps that s the reason what I have to say would be a dissertation So anything I could write here would be insufficient So I ll just tell you I love it because the main This is my favorite book of all time I ve read it numerous times and own several copies although it s out of print I gave a little seminar thing on it once I tried to use it as the foundation of my Master s thesis but my advisor said there was too much to say about it and to save it for my PhD And yet I can t review it Perhaps that s the reason what I have to say would be a dissertation So anything I could write here would be insufficient So I ll just tell you I love it because the main question I take from it is, What, who, where, why, and how is what s the nature definition of god which is why I went to grad school to study religion.So if that topic interests you, read this book Now Find a copy in a library or through ILL or on Alibris or somewhere else online and read it I may even be willing to send you a copy if you can t get one any of these places It s that goodNote You do not need to read the first book in the series as it really doesn t add a whole lot and isn t very good It does give a littlebackground then is provided in The Jesus Incident but I don t want you to hate it and then not read this one I first read Destination Void many years after I d already decided this was my favorite book and didn t even think about it


  2. Bev Bev says:

    Once upon a time in a science fictional decade far, far away there was an author named Frank Herbert He wrote a novel called Dune and it was good He wrote a fewDune related books and they were a mixture of good and bad And he wrote a book called The White Plague and it was good as well And then he joined up with another author a poet named Bill Ransom and wrote a novel called The Jesus Incident and completely lost this member of his audience.After having this novel and its two comp Once upon a time in a science fictional decade far, far away there was an author named Frank Herbert He wrote a novel called Dune and it was good He wrote a fewDune related books and they were a mixture of good and bad And he wrote a book called The White Plague and it was good as well And then he joined up with another author a poet named Bill Ransom and wrote a novel called The Jesus Incident and completely lost this member of his audience.After having this novel and its two companion pieces sitting on my TBR shelf for decades, I decided that this year, with my Mt TBR Challenge, was the year to finally tackle it and get it out the way I m going to confess up front I did not read every word of the entire thing I skimmed a great deal of the mid section.because, let s face it, it wobbled between being down right confusing and all out boring With Dune Herbert created a whole new world lots of things going on that were unusual and different, but he managed to give the reader enough information about that world that we knew what was up and we actually cared about Paul s journey to become Muad Dib In The Jesus Incident, we have another whole new world.and I just don t get it and I don t really care all that much.Well, okay Yes, I did get it We have this experimental group of the last survivors of Earth They were originally set up to try and create sentience Somewhere along the line, they succeeded and now their space vehicle, Ship, is sentient And thinks it is god And wants to be WorShipped And it has brought the humans and their clones yeah, what to a new paradise planet where they will be tested one last time Apparently, there have been many testings prior to this that we really don t know about Must not be important If they fail to figure out to WorShip properly, then Ship is going to wipe the tape, end the experiment, in a word get rid of mankind Nice.Oh And that paradise planet Not so much It s full of all kinds of predatory life that just love to kill humans clones And there s not enough food for everybody Sounds like the perfect place to take your next vacation, don t you think You d think that might be complex enough to hold my attention Yeah, no Because when it came down to it, the answer to how Ship expects to be WorShipped is a pretty lame and predictable and recycled answer No new insights here No real comment on the human condition or human spirituality or anything Just not Herbert s best writing, in my opinion One star


  3. Dee W. Dee W. says:

    Looking back, I wish I had read Destination Void first This book is the sequel but can be read alone My nature will demand the first book before I can read the third, however There is a lot of material that takes a lot of thought within these books.To expect less is to sell Frank Herbert short It sounds lame to say, but being a scientist Herbert is thorough if he s anything His books do not read like fluff, even when they arewatered down or abstract than hard science i.e Dune, etc Looking back, I wish I had read Destination Void first This book is the sequel but can be read alone My nature will demand the first book before I can read the third, however There is a lot of material that takes a lot of thought within these books.To expect less is to sell Frank Herbert short It sounds lame to say, but being a scientist Herbert is thorough if he s anything His books do not read like fluff, even when they arewatered down or abstract than hard science i.e Dune, etc By the time I got to the end of this, it was a kick in the gut I loved it I would reccomend it


  4. Robin Robin says:

    First off, this book is listed on Goodreads as Voidship 2 That s like listing the Fellowship of the Rings as The Hobbit 2 It s wrong, but the analogy of the connection is right.I love this series it s from my favorite series from my favorite science fiction author This is why I just re read this book before passing it on to a friend.Did you ever play the old Civilization games Remember the odd scientific statements that accompanied hallmarks of growth in a civilization I guarantee whoev First off, this book is listed on Goodreads as Voidship 2 That s like listing the Fellowship of the Rings as The Hobbit 2 It s wrong, but the analogy of the connection is right.I love this series it s from my favorite series from my favorite science fiction author This is why I just re read this book before passing it on to a friend.Did you ever play the old Civilization games Remember the odd scientific statements that accompanied hallmarks of growth in a civilization I guarantee whoever wrote that, read these books.The series is deep and complex, as is any Herbert book He thinks so much about every aspect, nowhereso than in Destination Void Voidship 1 , but I recommend you read this trilogy first, then go back and read Destination Void The trilogy itself is a wonderfully shifting, fantastic voyage It is sad that Herbert didn t survive to finish it, but Ransom kept the feel going and wraps everything up well for one of the most satisfying journeys in prose I ve ever taken


  5. Vanessa Vanessa says:

    Spoiler free.Really not sure how this book has such a fanbase If I d not gotten this in audiobook form, I doubt I would have finished, but hell, it carried me through household chores well enough This review will probably be pretty scattered, which will kind of reflect in itself how I feel about this book.I can t help but wonder if this book just hasn t aged well, or if I read it too late or something, in both or either a personal age and generational sense The setting and the concept is in Spoiler free.Really not sure how this book has such a fanbase If I d not gotten this in audiobook form, I doubt I would have finished, but hell, it carried me through household chores well enough This review will probably be pretty scattered, which will kind of reflect in itself how I feel about this book.I can t help but wonder if this book just hasn t aged well, or if I read it too late or something, in both or either a personal age and generational sense The setting and the concept is interesting, and is a lot of what kept me listening, hoping to catchof it, butThere was such a massive amount of description that seemed to be missing, and it felt like a crime given the opportunity provided by such a backdrop completely foreign, a blank canvas, but left with just stick figures and basic shapes It felt bare boned and often was just ambiguous or had me not bothering to imagine the scene because I had so little info or frame of reference Honestly, in terms of a few of the places, I don t think I d be able to describe them in detail, let alone relativity from one place to another even though a lot of things take place therein I just let it hang and kept going.The first fifth or so of the book is very enticing I was really hooked and had that sense of Ooo, this is gonna get goooood That plateaued by the first third, went stagnant around halfway, and completely flat lined by the end, which was so anti climactic and devoid of satisfaction that it brought my entire perception of the book under a magnifying glass all at once as if to highlight its missing pieces It promised a lot and totally didn t deliver The end just felt trite which is why I wonder if I just didn t read this book soon enough and rushed, even a cop out While there is a sense of a plot introduced from the very beginning, it remainsin the background and focuseson the characters I like character focused stuff, so that was fine and made for good listening In fact, around three quarters in, I kind of forgot the original presentation for a while because there was so much of it it stole the spotlight, as it were The story is the type in which the reader is sort of thrown into which was mostly done well , so there isn t really character development as much as reveal That said, there didn t seem to be that much variation between them except from the poet, whose introspection and examination was probably the most interesting but one of the least explored I can understand keeping his inner workings a bit of a mystery or aloof given the whole, but it was just odd after the amount of offered info in the beginning Anyway, the sense of characters lacking variation, though, could be from Brick s narration unfortunately I didn t read the prequel to the Pandora Sequence series, but I didn t feel that left me in the dark in any way at all I think some of the confusion some reviewers might be experiencing is just that style of being thrown into the story setting and having it revealed as mentioned.but given the book starts with someone being removed from cryostatis hibernation after years and years and years and being thrown into the situation at hand, it was completely appropriate in my opinion There were definitely some vague concepts I had to really consider the purpose the flower room served aside from atmosphere in the end and was left as underwhelmed by the conclusion as with the rest but they didn t serve as an aspect of confusion for me As for the exploration of humanity and questions about God and the rest of the philosophies It was not deep, not provoking I took it all as info being discovered as new because of being a humanity devoid of close hand knowledge of its origins or sense of self, hand fed to that point without much reason to think about it, so was surprised to find out this is a lot of what makes the book famous As a reader, it was just atmosphere, not food for thought This also and again leads me to question whether I read the book too late, but I m pretty good about giving my head a retro active frame of reference to appreciate the message for its time period, when it was introduced and all that, so this makes it all theflat Young adult fiction I ve read in the last few years has given meconcepts to think about than this book.My overall sense of the book was this You know when you think you ve got a writing idea or it s in the works, and you have dreams or daydreams where ideas visuals imaginations sort of flow or prod at you You maybe make a note or keep it in the back of your head, or write it down roughly to come back to later so you don t forget the little things Almost the entire book felt like reading two guys collection of these snippets just rough, a draft, lacking, unpolishedwith the intrigues and main characters identified but an ending not figured out yet Yet, somehow, it was just published with the end, like I mentioned, feeling rushed and a cop out Mix in some poetic flair Ransom s, I m sure to dress up basic human philosophies, too There definitely were polished pieces, but their distinction from the rest of the text was so bright that they just serve to glaringly highlight how rough and unfinished feeling the rest of the whole is This is doubly unsatisfying disappointing with the knowledge that there were two authors to oversee this work s fruition AND an author s note at the end stating neither of their ideas were ever excluded or thrown out Ship only knows what would be left if they were As an aside, I m not a fan of Scott Brick s narration I ve listened to a few of his readings now, and I have to do some internal work to imagine the words on the page, how it probably looks on the page, because he seems to impose his voice in the narrative sense onto each book in the same way Unfortunate, as his inflections and delivery can be very grippingjust a shame it s a blanket style If you re interested in the book, I recommending the ol conventional read


  6. Brad Brad says:

    The Jesus Incident is science fantasy full of characters and scenes lacking verisimilitude and has an awful conclusion that delivers a simplistic theological message Comparing God Emperor of Dune with The Jesus Incident makes it difficult to believe that Herbert had much to do with the writing of this book From the begining the reader is faced with the challenge of accepting that a ship has god like powers and abilities These abilities include telepathy without regard to distance or time, omn The Jesus Incident is science fantasy full of characters and scenes lacking verisimilitude and has an awful conclusion that delivers a simplistic theological message Comparing God Emperor of Dune with The Jesus Incident makes it difficult to believe that Herbert had much to do with the writing of this book From the begining the reader is faced with the challenge of accepting that a ship has god like powers and abilities These abilities include telepathy without regard to distance or time, omnipresence, time travel, teleporting people without a device, sending people through time and into a different body without a device Having read Destination Void when this godlike AI is created makes this seem all theimplausible Early on I assumed this is a fantasy used to create a SF scenario to examine religion After a dubious start, it seems like the plot is starting to move forward but then the book stalls with a series of single character chapters focused on introspection, questions, and redundant information This process is used to occasionaly advance the story The timeline becomes unreliable, the locations confusing and very little happens as characters think and think but manage to avoid any substantial philosophy or theology As the ending approaches, the writing goes from dull and annoying to blantantly stupid as verisimilitude is abandoned Organic beings without brains that communicate with computers A human using mental and organic telepathic powers to guide a space freightor in an emergency landing into the sea or onto a beach the writing isn t clear Characters actions are unreasonable or conflicting A character is unresponsive, too weak to speak, then suddenly walking around coherent and fine without explanation An energy beam gets repelled and redirected by vegetable group mind power This kind of stuff is garabage Absolutely terrible After suffering through some of the worst science fiction written, the philosophical and theological payoff promised by the title and Herbert s name consists of a simple message about religion and mankind that could have originated from any disgruntled student at any religious based private school I think it s sad that Herbert s name is on it and wished I hadn t read it


  7. Jack Jack says:

    If you ve read and loved Dune, this is definitely worth a read Herbert teams up with a poet Bill Ransom to tell a great sci fi story, which I just now found out from wiki is the second in a four part series Whoops I gotta read the first one Destination Void , and then re read this one and the equally good sequel The Lazarus Effect And then read the final one The Ascension Factor.I have a lot of work to do.


  8. Veronica Sicoe Veronica Sicoe says:

    Destination Void was amazing in and of itself, but The Jesus Incident took the whole of D V s challenging concepts to another level Absolutely amazing book, bursting with provocative ideas and multi layered characters.


  9. Natasha M Natasha M says:

    Almost as good as Dune I love the Avata I claimed the name


  10. Scott Rhee Scott Rhee says:

    To fully appreciate and possibly understand Frank Herbert s The Jesus Incident , one should probably read his novel Destination Void , which I actually think is a better novel Herbert wrote D V in 1965, and he wrote TJI along with Bill Ransom in 1979 A semi sequel to D V , TJI takes place literally thousands of years after the events of D V Raja Flattery, one of the four characters from the first novel, is awakened from his hyper sleep on board the ship Earthling, now simply c To fully appreciate and possibly understand Frank Herbert s The Jesus Incident , one should probably read his novel Destination Void , which I actually think is a better novel Herbert wrote D V in 1965, and he wrote TJI along with Bill Ransom in 1979 A semi sequel to D V , TJI takes place literally thousands of years after the events of D V Raja Flattery, one of the four characters from the first novel, is awakened from his hyper sleep on board the ship Earthling, now simply called Ship, which is run by the human like conscious computer that Flattery helped create Ship is basically God to the inhabitants of the ship, cloned humans who have, until recently, been in stasis They have discovered an inhabitable world, which Ship has called Pandora, but their attempts at colonization have been failures due to the carnivorous and violent life forms that inhabit the world, especially the electrokelp that lives in the oceans that make up a majority of Pandora s surface A faction of colonists are bent on wiping out the kelp, but Ship believes that the kelp is sentient and trying to communicate, so he enlists Thomas, with the help of a poet and several other clones, to lead an expedition to the planet s surface in order to communicate with the kelp There is a lot of stuff going on in this novel, much of it fascinating and entertaining Some of it, however, seems extraneous and superfluous My guess is that Herbert and Ransom took turns writing the chapters It has that choppy, disjointed feel that happens when two very different writers with two different styles of writing collaborate It can be fun, much like a Saturday morning serial in which each chapter ends with a cliff hanger, but it also has the tendency to feel like neither writer knew where the other writer was going, so they decided to take it in many different directions Not that the novel isn t readable It is, and it is enjoyable Just don t expect it to go anywhere you expected it to, and don t expect sufficient closure for some of the tangential storylines, some of which end abruptly and one seems to have been dropped completely Interesting note Director James Cameron clearly borrowed many of the ideas from this novel for his film Avatar The name of the planet, for one, as well as the discovery that the entire planet and its many life forms are connected via a neural network , a sentience that calls itself Avata While I loved Avatar , I m thinking Cameron probably should have thrown in some acknowledgments to Herbert and Ransom s novel in his film credits Maybe he did, but I don t remember seeing them And I am the type to actually read credits


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