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  1. Lisa Lisa says:

    Is a picture worth a thousand words And if so, does it tell a story Imagine Calvino setting out to create a Boccaccio or Dante situation, a setting in which travellers meet in an obscure forest and have time to spend on a storytelling adventure Calvino would hardly be Calvino if he didn t give the project his own twist, complicating matters to the point of impossibility His protagonists, including the narrator, discover that they are mute How are you to share if you can t speak They let Ta Is a picture worth a thousand words And if so, does it tell a story Imagine Calvino setting out to create a Boccaccio or Dante situation, a setting in which travellers meet in an obscure forest and have time to spend on a storytelling adventure Calvino would hardly be Calvino if he didn t give the project his own twist, complicating matters to the point of impossibility His protagonists, including the narrator, discover that they are mute How are you to share if you can t speak They let Tarot cards speak In sequence after sequence, the cards are arranged to tell the stories of the characters, showing their passions,their hopes, their dreams and their losses Is that possible Even Leonardo da Vinci needed words and writing to make the statement that he thought painting was a superior art form compared to literature Since Antiquity, visual art and literature have been compared and evaluated according to their respective expressive power Ut pictura poesis, claimed Horace in his Ars Poetica, but is it really true Calvino seems to agree with the idea in the beginning, but his stories crumble and disappear in the artistic arrangements he is imagining while looking at the multiple meanings each card contains.Different stories are interlinked, and give the cards new potential for interpretation Literature jumps in to fill the gaps in the visual narratives We meet Faust, King Lear, Macbeth, Oedipus and many others while the narrator tries to find his own story in the cards.Literature like painting Lessing, in his Laokoon, defined literature as a sequence of episodes and painting as one important moment in focus, and in a way, Calvino has managed to merge these two ideas into a sequence of defining moments minus the connecting tissue of narrative context.This is quite the opposite of what Hofmann did in his literary description of Brueghel s The Parable Of The Blind, turning the description of the painting into a long episode connecting the brush strokes by adding interpretation and meaning.Why would Calvino do a thing like that Is there any meaning in his ambiguous mutation of the functionality of art and literature I would say let the tarot cards speak The Hanged Man says Lasciatemi cos Ho fatto tutto il giro e ho capito Il mondo si legge all incontrario Tutto chiaro The world clearly makessense if it is read from the upside down position I agree, Calvino Bravo


  2. Bradley Bradley says:

    Ah, to be drunk with a pack of tarot cards Or was it speed Not sure It could be PCP But whatever the drug, this collection of short stories surrounding the obvious use of tarot cards to write stories or re write common tales or to lay down the structure of alchemy or to just have a plain ole good time is a concept I can love in pure concept terms, and do, but just how much did I love this exact work Um Well Some parts were fun and funny and the deep story concepts were really rather cool, Ah, to be drunk with a pack of tarot cards Or was it speed Not sure It could be PCP But whatever the drug, this collection of short stories surrounding the obvious use of tarot cards to write stories or re write common tales or to lay down the structure of alchemy or to just have a plain ole good time is a concept I can love in pure concept terms, and do, but just how much did I love this exact work Um Well Some parts were fun and funny and the deep story concepts were really rather cool, but getting deep into any of it except for the stories we already know by heart was a real pain I kinda felt like we were playing with little green interchangeable army men one moment and then we were having an intellectual discussion about high alchemical concepts and symbolism and the structure of the soul versus the medium in which we use it and its inversion, as seen with Doctor Faustus As in creating philosopher s gold within one s soul as the medium versus using the soul as a coin to create philosopher s gold directly, with the obvious fail associated with it Of course, if that s too complicated to enjoy, then I d recommend avoiding this book because that was just a tiny, tiny part The rest seems to be a random shuffle and subsequent interpretation Fun, in a way, but oddly dissatisfying


  3. Michael Finocchiaro Michael Finocchiaro says:

    I am a huge Calvino fan His stories are full of mathematical marvels and ingenious ideas The Castle of Crossed Destinies has both of these characteristics and is a short but marvelous read.


  4. Trevor Trevor says:

    I always feel the need to alternate one type of writing with another, completely different, to begin writing again as if I had never written anything before And thus ends Italo Calvino s The Castle of Crossed Destinies There are times when I forget just how much I love Calvino s writing This is a very short book, but one that requires intense concentration to read in fact, it requires intense concentration right up until the point where you realise that you simply aren t smart enough to geI always feel the need to alternate one type of writing with another, completely different, to begin writing again as if I had never written anything before And thus ends Italo Calvino s The Castle of Crossed Destinies There are times when I forget just how much I love Calvino s writing This is a very short book, but one that requires intense concentration to read in fact, it requires intense concentration right up until the point where you realise that you simply aren t smart enough to get this book in its full and breathtaking complexity That moment for me was page 38 in the Picador version that I own at least, that is the moment I truly knew that there are depths to this book I have no hope of ever being able to plumb Not unlike trying to read Kant s various categories in the Critique and also finding myself lost in a mind infinitelylogical than mine can ever hope to be I read this book with mouth gaping awe As TS Eliot put it, il miglior fabbro the better craftsman.Now that I ve probably put you off reading this book, let me see if I can make you want to read it.A man is lost in the forest after a long, dangerous and arduous journey In the distance, as it is getting dark, he sees a castle He makes his way there and is shown into a room where a great number of other people are already seated and eating and drinking He joins them and is about to begin talking when he discovers that he has no power of speech at all This surprises him, but in watching the others at the table he soon discovers that they too have lost the ability to speak.When the food and wine are cleared away all that is left on the table is a pack of tarot cards One of the guests flips through the pack and then selects cards with careful deliberation and sets them down in two rows These cards and the manner in which they are placed on the table tell his story Another guest then begins his story, also by laying down cards on the table this time crossing the two rows with two columns In this way elements of the first story are reused in the second story In the end there is an enormous spread of cards across the table in which twelve interlaced stories are told The stories can be read up and down, or down and up, or right to left, or left to right.Tarot cards have a symbolic meaning, obviously enough, but that meaning depends in these stories on the card s position it appears within the story itself and on the story that is being told as much as on the image depicted on the face of the card So that the two of clubs a card with two wooden clubs crossed on its face, can mean two paths intersecting or it can mean the beginning of a battle.This is a book that does what poetry does it weaves meaning out of images while at the same time referring to the history of poetry or literature as a way to give those images additional context and content I don t know how familiar you might be with TS Eliot s The Waste Land but basically, it does much the same thing, taking lots of lines from European poetry and literature and smashing them so as to play with the shattered pieces scattered across the floor In that poem there is a fortune teller with a wicked pack of cards called Madame Sosostris It would be hard to be too surprised that she might make an appearance in this book as well.My Good Reads friend Paul did this review of this book And while I can understand his frustration, this book is much better than he might make you think I do understand that someone might think it is all a huge wank or a drunken bet gone horribly wrong but I can only accept that until you get to I Also Try to Tell My Tale from that moment on this book becomes something completely different from what you might have imagined it was going to be I wouldn t mind betting if I was a betting man that Paul stopped out of frustration before this part of the book on the basis that he had worked out where this one was going From then on until the very last breath of this book it becomes something else something that justifies any incomprehension or difficulty that might have troubled you up until this point Let s be completely frank here if you are not about to pull your hair out by the time you get to this point in the book you have completely missed the point of the book and need to cut back on the drugs you are taking they are, quite obviously, not doing you any favours at all.But from the moment the King of Clubs from the Ancien Tarot de Marseille is dropped onto the table you will find it virtually impossible to stop reading The descriptions of St Jerome and St George which has you saying oh so that is what that stuff meant and then the three tales of madness where Hamlet, MacBeth and King Lear are smashed together are so mind blowingly well written and so damn clever and so insightful that it makes you come away thinking you have at least a vague idea of why people waste quite so much time reading this Literature rubbish in the first place.You know, you really could see this book as some sort of post modern wank of meta fiction, the sort of book one might read at University for forty five years followed by a PhD thesis explaining the connections between the Oedipus myth and the sorts of fairytales that Calvino himself documents in his Italian Folk Tales and, of course, the ever present and potent images found in the humble tarot pack BUT this is a book based on the real obsession of the author, a writer who decided one day to see if he could make patterns out of rows of tarot cards so as to literally use them to tell stories and to then see if he could link those stories together and also somehow write them up in a way that complemented the sting of images he had produced on the table before him As he said, he finally published the book in the hope of exorcising this obsession which was becoming all consuming Again, I m not a betting man, but I would put real money on my belief that publishing the book really didn t help And for those of us who have spent a lifetime obsessed with choicesevery choice has its obverse, that is to say a renunciation, and so there is no difference between the act of choosing and the act of renouncing I would also be prepared to bet that Calvino liked to read Hegel You know, perhaps I mof a gambler than I like to pretend


  5. Paul Bryant Paul Bryant says:

    People sit around in pubs and get drunk and bandy ridiculous ideas about hey, what if you wrote a novel but you couldn t use one letter of the alphabet Wow, great idea Hey what about a bunch of characters who can only communicate by means of tarot cards Whoah, that s cool Hey what about someone getting in the next round Well, we ve been part of those evenings, and the next day we ve got a fat headache and forgotten all that nonsense Except for Italo Calvino and Georges Perec They don People sit around in pubs and get drunk and bandy ridiculous ideas about hey, what if you wrote a novel but you couldn t use one letter of the alphabet Wow, great idea Hey what about a bunch of characters who can only communicate by means of tarot cards Whoah, that s cool Hey what about someone getting in the next round Well, we ve been part of those evenings, and the next day we ve got a fat headache and forgotten all that nonsense Except for Italo Calvino and Georges Perec They don t They remember, and then they actually write the damn weird books Friends of perec and calvino Can you beat that He actually took that shit seriously Now I haven t read Perec yet since I am crazy enough to want to know how it pans out but I tried Calvino and he s just never as interesting as the idea that started him off So that means he s the Brian Eno of literature Full disclosure a friend of mine once tried to get me to co write a play based on this book Perhaps therefore I m being a little harsh Anyway, it wasn t one of our best concepts goodbye avant post postism May all your truths be self reflexive


  6. K.D. Absolutely K.D. Absolutely says:

    To be my friend here in Goodreads, my question is What is your favorite literary genre In response to that, I received several answers ranging from classics, noir, thrillers very few , mystery and suspense and romance every now and then but mostly YA and none in particular or as I read anything that sometimes makes me ask myself what s the use of asking the question Well, I now have 200 friends andthan half of those I guess wanted me to be their friend instead of the other w To be my friend here in Goodreads, my question is What is your favorite literary genre In response to that, I received several answers ranging from classics, noir, thrillers very few , mystery and suspense and romance every now and then but mostly YA and none in particular or as I read anything that sometimes makes me ask myself what s the use of asking the question Well, I now have 200 friends andthan half of those I guess wanted me to be their friend instead of the other way around.But there was one answer I will always rememberI read everything including tarot cardsCome on, you can t be real, I said to myself I readily accepted his offer of friendship You see, I normally click on Compare Books and check on the person s profile first if not set on private before I accept But I never had a friend, GR or non GR, who knows how to read tarot cards.The tarot cards, considered as prophetic to some and are themselves open to many symbolic interpretations, are used by Calvino author of the essay Why Read the Classics to tell different stories, based on real life or imagined by himself What he did was he laid down all the 78 tarot cards and composed short independent stories either based on existing ones like those of Roland, St George, St Jerome, Faust, Oedipus and Hamlet or from his imagination like the story of an alchemist who sold his soul The book is divided into two parts 1 The Castle of Crossed Destinies, published in 1969, that used The Viscondi Pack and 2 The Tavern of Crossed Destinies that featured The Tarot of Marseilles Each book follows the same plot The characters find themselves in a castle Book 1 or tavern Book 2 unable to talk or dumb after a long journey in the forest Then sitting on the dinner table, they tell their stories by opening and laying down their own series of cards The crossed destinies happen when the stories share a common tarot card which can be interpreted differently Very clever storytelling It is reason enough for this to be included in the 1001 You Must Read Before You Die I supposed that this kind of storytelling is something that only a gifted novelist can do.Fabulist Italo Calvino 1923 1985 was an Italian journalist and writer of short stories, essays and novels In one of his earlier essays, he said that the qualities of literature that future generations should cherish include lightness, quickness, exactitude, visibility and multiplicity All of these qualities are in this book especially visibility because all the tarot cards appear alongside the narratives For somebody like me who are not familiar, I think I have not hold a deck in all my life, with tarot cards, I was able to follow the stories That tarot reader guy is now one of my close friends here in Goodreads He even told me that he will read my future using his tarot cards Well, without consulting any of his card I can already predict one that he sure will be clicking Yes for this review See I do not need any tarot card to tell what will happen


  7. Jeff Jackson Jeff Jackson says:

    This one looked like pure candy stories of knight, hermits, and queens told from Tarot cards but that proved to be a mirage Instead it s an Oulipian experiment in how to generate multiple stories from two Tarot decks which differ only in their illustrations The stories unfold one card at a time the selected cards are also shown in the margins as the narrator struggles to create coherence between each card and an overall narrative thread throughout the course of the reading There s a This one looked like pure candy stories of knight, hermits, and queens told from Tarot cards but that proved to be a mirage Instead it s an Oulipian experiment in how to generate multiple stories from two Tarot decks which differ only in their illustrations The stories unfold one card at a time the selected cards are also shown in the margins as the narrator struggles to create coherence between each card and an overall narrative thread throughout the course of the reading There s a stop start quality to the storytelling here that can be exhausting and I m betting it s why this book has garnered some low marks Along with the narrator, you re toggling back and forth between text and cards and weighing various interpretative possibilities It s a fascinating experience, but narrative momentum is pretty much out of the question Calvino s trying to pull you out of these tales It s a journey where the point is to hit every single pothole on the road.My recommendation is to read this slowly and alongside several other books to avoid aggravation These tales are fascinating for how they unravel themselves even as they re told, inviting the reader to question every turn they take The later tales get juicier vampires s Sade s Justine but they re still best experienced one at a time Taken as a whole, Calvino s exploration of the Tarot decks mainly adds up to a dizzying realization about the range of possibilities within a single shuffle Side note Something must have been in water in the early 1970s about medieval tales Other than Calvino s stories of knights, there s the entire Electric Eden movement of British folk, Eric Rohmer s Perceval movie, various Arthurian films, etc


  8. Bhavya Viswarajan Bhavya Viswarajan says:

    I like books And I like books on books Italo Calvino creates an air of suspended fictional narratives, with 78 tarot cards, weaving in, amongst others, Hamlet, Macbeth, King Lear, Oedipus and Sigismund of Vindabola and his interpretation of dreams.Travellers meet in a tavern, wish to share their stories, but find themselves rendered mute With just tarot cards at their disposal, though the the tales they create look clich d, their telling is very much not Interpretations are questioned, and C I like books And I like books on books Italo Calvino creates an air of suspended fictional narratives, with 78 tarot cards, weaving in, amongst others, Hamlet, Macbeth, King Lear, Oedipus and Sigismund of Vindabola and his interpretation of dreams.Travellers meet in a tavern, wish to share their stories, but find themselves rendered mute With just tarot cards at their disposal, though the the tales they create look clich d, their telling is very much not Interpretations are questioned, and Calvino makes a wonderful statement, Showing every man in a perpetual pursuit of permutations of words or tarot cards Worth the read


  9. Nicky Nicky says:

    I don t know why I keep trying it s quite obvious that while there are aspects of Calvino s writing that I love, even coming blurred through the translations, his structures, styles, plots, characters or lack thereof really get on my nerves The idea is fine, but then telling a whole series of stories via someone guessing at what other people mean by laying out certain patterns of tarot cards gets wearing.It s nice at first to keep your mind on the cards, the symbolism, the way the story hap I don t know why I keep trying it s quite obvious that while there are aspects of Calvino s writing that I love, even coming blurred through the translations, his structures, styles, plots, characters or lack thereof really get on my nerves The idea is fine, but then telling a whole series of stories via someone guessing at what other people mean by laying out certain patterns of tarot cards gets wearing.It s nice at first to keep your mind on the cards, the symbolism, the way the story happens And then, for me, it loses its novelty Maybe it d have worked as a short story, but thetortuous it got, theirritated I got


  10. Amy (Other Amy) Amy (Other Amy) says:

    I publish this book to be free of it it has obsessed me for years I began by trying to line up the tarots at random, to see if I could read the story in them The Waverer s Tale emerged I started writing it down I looked for other combinations of the same cards I realized the tarots were a machine for constructing stories I thought of a book, and I imagined its frame the mute narrators, the forest, the inn I was tempted by the diabolical idea of conjuring up all the stories that couldI publish this book to be free of it it has obsessed me for years I began by trying to line up the tarots at random, to see if I could read the story in them The Waverer s Tale emerged I started writing it down I looked for other combinations of the same cards I realized the tarots were a machine for constructing stories I thought of a book, and I imagined its frame the mute narrators, the forest, the inn I was tempted by the diabolical idea of conjuring up all the stories that could be contained in a tarot deck. The Hanged Man and The Magician from the Bembo Tarot used for The CastleAren t those interesting Those are the cards used for the first section of this book Yet here I am, handing a nice, shining single star to Italo Calvino What the hell happened there Really, this should have worked for me I love symbolic, self referential books on books I love the idea of Tarot as a story machine, of the search for an All Story This even has a fantastic The Wasteland reference And ends by making Hamlet, Lady Macbeth, and King Leer into the same story So what gives Mainly, what gives is that this particular experiment in fiction failed In seeking to tell the stories of the mute narrators and keep his self imposed rules, Calvino ends up with the narrator within the story interpreting the cards for the reader as they are laid down This ends with a lot of he must mean, and surely what happened was going on He is also using the minor arcana, which makes the story visually boring As cards are reused, the story becomes confused and evenvisually boring The first part, the castle, is unmitigated crap, largely because the rules of that section require the cards to be reused in the order they are laid on the table when tales intersect After a while, even Calvino is just glossing.The tavern stories in the second part are considerably better, as Calvino allows his characters to grab cards from each other He seems to have putheart into this section His usual sly remarks and cheerful asides are muchprominent here He goes into an extended meditation on writing when he tells his own tale But there are none of the wry revelations that I found so charming in If on a Winter s Night a Traveller, and this book does nothing that that book did not do better.Final verdict It scrap than not Skip it Maybe it would be best if authors didn t publish works just to be free of them themselves Here, have a nice picture of a Tarot card used in the second part of the book Call it a consolation prize The Magician from the Marseilles Tarot used for The Tavern


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