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  • Paperback
  • 709 pages
  • Ancient Evenings
  • Norman Mailer
  • English
  • 04 October 2014
  • 9780349109701

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  1. Vit Babenco Vit Babenco says:

    Ancient Evenings is a thoroughly unpleasant novel – in it Norman Mailer almost sadistically admires all sorts of violence and atrocity If he were an Egyptian deity he surely wouldn’t have been Thoth or Horus he would have been Seth or Anubis So the novel may be considered as Norman Mailer’s historical Fleurs du Mal or some tenebrously romantic Totentanz The is a highly poetic song Islands of the Dead by Be Bop DeluxeCome with me to the fire festival let us burn each other blind Let us dance let us dance away dance till the end of time Come with me to the islands of the dead to the soul house to the fire house to smoke and ash of laughter in your head sweet laughter hereafter ever after in the islands of the deadAnd in Ancient Evenings Norman Mailer literally takes us inside the Book of the DeadWe sail across dominions barely seen washed by the swells of time We plow through fields of magnetism Past and future come together on thunderheads and our dead hearts live with lightning in the wounds of the GodsHistory is no less a sanguinary myth than all those bloodthirsty and scatological deities that dwelt in the heads of our ancient forefathers


  2. Lyn Lyn says:

    “We sail across dominions barely seen washed by the swells of time We plow through fields of magnetism Past and future come together on thunderheads and our dead hearts live with lightning in the wounds of the Gods”Fantastically detailed and colorful truly a literary masterpiece yet maintaining Mailer's personality as if he were narrating with a wink and grinWhat stands out and is memorial is the frank sexuality of Mailer's narrative He describes a lusty populace with heightened awareness of themselves as sexual creaturesMailer's language is rich and his story complex spiritual and psychological under the canopy of the myth and legend This is an artistic achievement“Was it an hour or a week before the light of the moon rose in the interior of my body? A bird with luminous wings flew in front of that full moon and its head was as radiant as a point of light That bird must be the Khu this sweet bird of the night a creature of divine intelligence loaned to us just so much as the Ren or the Sekhem Yes the Khu was a light in your mind while you lived but in death it must return to heaven For the Khu was also eternal”


  3. Szplug Szplug says:

    Beyond any doubt Mailer can write witness the incredibly vivid disorienting existentially inebriated explosiveness of a Nile nourished soul's rupturing reincarnation within fleshly garb that opens Ancient Evenings This was so well done that my hopes for the thickish remainder was nigh unbounded Alas Mailer also cannot seem to discipline himself and his voluminous story progressively spirals into sheer authorial indulgence almost as if all thoughts of the patient reader accompanying such hyperkinetic outpourings were abandoned amidst the exuberance of linguistically capturing everything feral carnal kinetic and mytho spiritual that popcorn burst within Mailer's feverish imagination and nailing it down to the page As a significant number of my fellow reviewers have made note of the amount of buggery grotesue violence flowery rhetoric and divine Coptic name dropping that litters Ancient Evenings proves mind numbing; rather than shocking or enthralling with its air of casual admission it renders what should have invoked the portentous and mysterious at a visceral level into an off key bugling of the tedious and ridiculous Oh Sayh Kann Yu Seeh's bung is flowering from sperm seed Call the Nilotic plumber That's not to say the book isn't ultimately worth reading mind—or at least skimming—for the historic trappings sanguinary armed clashing ritualistic priestly lubricating mnemonic Nile barge cruising and vividly illustrated details of ancient Egyptian life with all of its tactile connections to the primordial and unearthly yet makes for interesting reading material Rather it's a rueful nod to the fact that Mailer's inability to restrain himself means not only that a large number of readers will never undertake to finish or even begin this novel but that those with the fortitude to do so will have been cheated out of what should have proved a far illuminating rewarding and challenging literary experience


  4. Caitlin Caitlin says:

    As the reviews below suggest this will be a 1 star or a 5 star for you but unlikely to be anything much in between I adore Mailer for his cockiness his absolute conviction of his own brilliance for the sentences whose structure make me drop my jaw and laugh for insight and for buggery Who else could write a sprawling Egyptian epic stuffed with filth of roaches and make it so thoroughly mine? I love this best of all he's written and think about it than the rest combined God help me if I can tell you exactly why This book made me feel like a kid again needing to turn one page


  5. George George says:

    My story must be long like the length of a snake If I present the head You will know nothing of the body Only the smile of the snakeWhen I think of Norman Mailer I think of pub pugilism uxorial impalement and other egotesticle activititties But with Ancient Evenings Mailer seems to mostly shed this persona which is the stuff of such works as Tough Guys Don't Dance and The Fight and provides the reader with an immersive imaginative experienceSure there is war waging royal sex by all three mouths coprophagia and males dominating each other through the act of buggery but these obscene scenes are aspects of ancient Egyptian mythologyWhile reading this 700 page tome you will all but swim in the Nile bow before the Pharaoh visit the whisper laden House of the Secluded eg His harem of little ueens fight in a sea of chariots during the infamous Battle of Kadesh be embalmed and soaked in natron and fly as the human headed bird soul known as the BaThe last couple hundred pages were not as magic infused as the preceding portions I think this might be due to a lack of climax a monophonic tone and the content itself However I have never made the pseudo editorial claim that a book needs fewer pages although I've said the opposite for DeLillo's magnum opus Underworld and I wouldn't suggest a circumcision in this case either Rather Mailer needs voices to enhance the alluring somewhat soft spoken charm of a humble Borges that desensitizes the eyes over time The prose is never so floral as linguaphiles Rikki Ducornet or Angela Carter which I think is a sorely missed opportunityOverall this dark and brutal book is the decade long product of obsession and research 1972 1982 to be exact My mental depth instrument counted four story fathoms Such a measurement can also be indicative of a love for storytelling especially the ancient kindAlso in addition to academic articles and other paraphernalia I've found that when researching topics for my meganovel that I'm lucky to come across certain books that almost instantly make me comfortable writing within a given world and this is one of themI think I'll gift my copy to Karl Sanders of the death metal band Nile next time I see him in concert It could very well inspire another masterpiece albumUpdate 121219On my birthday Nile played a show I gifted my copy of the book to Karl and he that god of death metal accepted my offering Praise Ra


  6. Sara Sara says:

    In a recent post on my blog I spent a good deal of time discussing how ancient Egypt receives a disproportionate amount of popular attention as far as classical history goes And then I promptly began reading a novel by Norman Mailer set in ancient Egypt I learned about Ancient Evenings and a number of other extremely interesting books from a post by Wilfried Houjebek on the original and worthwhile site SpaceCollective Houjebek describes it this way Ancient Evenings is the autobiography of a Ka the lowliest soul of the seven souls of the ancient Egyptians which makes for unusual reading Especially because Mailer uses an uncensored version of Egyptian mythology which to put it mildly differs from the version you get of it from the National Geographic The Egyptians practised sex magic with the stamina of a bonobo Mailer makes Aleister Crowley look like a prudish schoolboy This is the boldest attempt to recreate a radically different mind from ours that I know of and does so successfullyStrangely and despite my bellyaching about all of the historical attention paid to ancient Egypt reading this novel has underscored how seldom ancient Egypt has been explored in fiction Science fiction has adopted Egypt as an aesthetic treasure trove from which to draw tropes and visuals much like fantasy has used the Middle Ages but fictive explorations of historical ancient Egypt remain scarce Ancient Evenings in this respect certainly provides a thrill on par with Apocalypto Mel Gibson's cinematic rendering of the pre Columbian Mayan civilization For reasons best known to the 100000th author to set a novel in Victorian London we rarely get to place ourselves imaginatively in certain neglected places and periods It is a treat to go along with an author or filmmaker while they portray these lesser attended worlds and their inhabitantsTo work this kind of venture reuires at least a gesture towards the detail and methodological sophistication of an adept historian It is not sufficient to project one's modern sensibility into a premodern time period; neither is it useful to envision all precursors to our modernity as uainter rubish versions of ourselves That kind of shortsighted anachronism seems clunky and unconvincing even when applied to time periods much closer to our own a great by which I mean rather dreadful example of this is One Thousand White Women The author undertaking such a project ideally realizes that past cultures operated not just in different material worlds than we do but within truly foreign paradigms and cosmologies The cultural assumptions upon which they based their value systems their ideas of self and of the world depart radically from our own When executed with sensitivity such a project demands not merely sound research but a real shift of one's entire epistemological frameworkI think Mailer understood this and attempted it sincerely He not only spent a good deal of time researching the world in which he set this novel but his narrative choices exhibit an awareness that ancient Egyptians viewed the world and humans' place in it in a profoundly different way than do we Their minds were not our minds It took Mailer 10 years to complete Ancient Evenings and without being an expert on ancient Egyptian civilization I can offer that every time I looked up a reference which seemed either farfetched or peculiarly well imagined a factual basis existed for it I have actually become so curious regarding the breadth of Mailer's research that I procured a couple of academic histories about ancient Egyptian society and culture I expect by reading them to form a complete opinion concerning Mailer's level of scholarship and authenticity in portraying ancient Egyptians but I suspect it is rather highAuthenticity and historical imaginative responsibility aside the book possesses other artistic merits Mailer has given the novel a story within a story narrative structure reminiscent of The Thousand and One Nights As indicated above we do begin with our protagonist Menenhetet's ka or vital spark that essence which distinguishes the living from the dead as he awakens in an Egyptian necropolis and realizes he is dead but cannot remember who he was Slowly Menenhetet's ka recalls himself and soon meets the ka of his namesake great grandfather The story moves across generations telling the story of the elder Menenhetet's four previous lives and involves tales of charioteers concubines and priests embroiled in wars palace intrigue and religious rituals; and yet through Mailer's careful emplotment and through the almost supernatural connection of his ancient Egyptians to each other and to their own history the reader gleans a coherent narrative from the maze In contrast with The Thousand and One Nights the story within a story structure of Ancient Evenings supplies a feeling of unity rather than the Arabian tale's feeling of disjointed rabbit holingThe most self contained narrative episode of Ancient Evenings relates the story of the deities Isis and Osiris But again while discrete this story adds much to the arc and cohesion of the novel as a whole given the centrality of deities to daily Egyptian life and so to Menenhetet's lives The tale of Isis and Osiris introduces the reader to the main players in the Egyptian pantheon and also offers a good example of the gods' vacillating powers aspects and associations with one another This information proves useful as we crawl into Mailer's well realized and highly religious ancient Egypt It also begins to inure us to the litany of sex acts detailed descriptions of which we will have to wade through in order to make it to the end of this 700plus page bookMailer does a reasonable job of linking sex to some sort of spiritual alchemy Most Bronze Age cultures situated procreation and fertility metaphorically and actually at the center of their religious mythologies and rituals Mailer's ancient Egypt reflects this Sex comprises an exchange of power eual or uneual depending The sexual activity of the pharaoh indeed all of his physical experiences are tied to the land itself and to the vital cycles of the Nile Sex can establish something like a psychic link; although in general Mailer's Egyptians are capable of hearing each others' thoughts and even seeing each others' memories In short sex certainly has a relevant place in the world of Mailer's story Nevertheless the endless if inventive sex scenes made me feel half like a baffled and enthralled probably giggling child nervously flipping through a pilfered porn magazine; and half like a bored adult scoffing and rolling eyes because I have actually had sex and now these images do not feed my curiosity but seem superficial and disappointingI do not here lodge any accusation of rank sexism at Mr Mailer nor am I calling Ancient Evenings pornography I have formed the distinct impression that Mailer truly used or felt he used his depictions of sex to communicate the centrality of sex as act and sex as metaphor to the spirituality of ancient Egyptians That is he does not treat his descriptions as gratuitous and I believe he meant by them to reveal how open and un tabooed Egyptians behaved with regard to sex Mailer's sex scenes tend to punctuate if not always further the plot The sex he describes does not only involve bodies but egos and psyches as well Additionally he references most types of sex imaginable between men and women men and men women and women people and animals; participants range from two to the hundreds seriously you have never seen battle depicted like this; oral anal manual and anything else you can imagine occurs; he portrays sex as it demonstrates for both sexes love lust domination curiosity rage and friendship; sex for Mailer's characters can yield shame elation or insight As with actual sex in the actual world the meaning all depends on context and participantsIn this way I would not call Mailer's use or depiction of sex sexist I am however tempted to call plenty of it juvenile Mailer definitely crafts female characters with agency than round mouthed blow up dolls but the drives of their sexuality still seem to mimic the drives of men They use sex the same way men do; they want the same thingsahemthing Compiling a list of Mailer's euphemisms for the penis would yield a monotonous if periodically amusing read And this goes back to the feeling I kept getting while reading the novel; that I was in fact peeping at girly magazine Ancient Evenings is not like porn insofar as it has a higher purpose than portraying sex for titillation It is exactly like porn insofar as it is so profoundly phallocentric as to seem freuently comicalThe male member is described referred to manipulated named and prized to a farcical degree by Mailer via all of his characters Women and at least one of their erogenous zones are not ignored certainly and some female characters only the most powerful and goddess like however are three dimensionally drawn than others but female sexuality as a whole in Ancient Evenings retains the unidirectional telos and raison d'être of porn it's all about the cockTrue many modern portrayals of sex pornographic and otherwise echo Mailer's phallus obsession It is possible that ancient Egypt simply resembles our own time and place in this respect but I rebel against this thought I find the omnipresence of phallic symbols as fertility symbols very believable but I assume Egyptians would know and employ other symbols as well and that female symbols of sexual power might also engage their sexuality Ancient Evenings is an otherwise well imagined portrayal of a people for whom the powers that be appeared sexually balanced than strictly patriarchal and who validated women's sexual appetites and so I dare to hypothesize understood and even indulged them It would have been refreshing to read about a group of women who do not behave as though they were reared on the assumption that their own sexuality exists primarily for the use and pleasure of men; or that their sexuality mirrors in perfect inverse that of menObserving the many columned Temple of Hatshepsut Pharaoh Ramses II says to the elder Menenhetet Only a woman would build a temple with nothing but cocks 278 And there is no satire in this comment no inkling of a minor truth that women learn when still little girls and continue to observe as the boys they know become men many many males are fascinated by their own dicks and project this fascination out into the world and on to females with an astounding lack of self reflection I suggest only a man would imagine a woman would build a temple with nothing but cocksWhatever authenticity may mean in this context Small wonder given the folkloric and oral provenance of The Thousand and One Nights; I intend no criticism of that amazing work


  7. Jack Mason Jack Mason says:

    ANCIENT EVENINGS is so many things It's one of the greatest gay love stories ever written for one something that is downplayed by reviewers in favor of a categorical dismissal of the novel as merely endless descriptions of sodomy The tempestuous love between Ramses II and Menenhetet I forms the core of the novel couched in a complicated beautiful framing device that resembles Proust as much as THE ARABIAN NIGHTS It's also an arty fantasy sci fi epic in the manner of DUNE supernatural elements abound even though the novel was marketed as historical fiction ANCIENT EVENINGS doesn't have the reputation it deserves both because Mailer has been unfashionable for so long and because it's such a uniue novel that readers don't know what to make of it Most people seem not to put forth much of an effort and abandon it during the mythology segment which I don't understand; the prose is actually imminently readable and entertaining and you just have to surrender to it and keep in mind that you will not remember every detail or name mentioned It's certainly the most perverse thing ever to be printed in mass market paperback with NATIONAL BESTSELLER emblazoned on the top The total absence of any kind of modern morality must be disturbing for many readers; I myself marveled at how so many hundreds of pages of erotically described incest of every conceivable variety was desensitizing me Reading it can be a kind of existential nightmare you've died and you're trapped in a pyramid giving your great grandfather a BJ while traveling through time and inhabiting the mind of your mother as she does the same thing This is the shit I'm talking aboutIf you like Sade DH Lawrence DUNE William Burroughs Jacueline Carey's delightfully trashy KUSHIEL'S DART or Kate Bush you'll like it Contrary to what others say I think the story ties itself up nicely and the final trip through the Land of the Dead is stunning and rewarding There is also one final incest shocker in the last ten pages as unbelievable as that sounds after 830 pages of incest it still serves as an effective twist


  8. Holly Holly says:

    The recent news aboput Mailer being on his deathbed reminded me of my one and only attempt at reading his stuff I must have gotten through at least the first third of this book but godalmighty pretty much just an excuse for vivid descriptions of buggery buggery and incest Also buggeryDude has issues


  9. Magdelanye Magdelanye says:

    ¨Driftingis drifting¨So insists the man with the pus filled eyeeven if he is about to be given a severe thrashing by a boatman who violently disagrees But it is a good way to approach this massiveastonishing work of historical fiction that spans dynasties It is also indicative of NM´s tendency to mingle the repulsive and the sublime and in so doing he weaves a rich and vivid tapestry of reality that we can taste and smell and almost touchNo matter that some of the details are sorely askewalthough I must wonder if poetic license is really enough to justify making Nefertiti the ueen of Ramses II This led me wonder why he dealt so poorly with Akhnetonand whywith his focus on Ramses IIhe omits to place the Jews in their context It is not because he resricted in his point of view Indeedafter my initial bewilderment subsidedI highly admired the way NM slides in and out of different perspectivesOkayso the majority of the book consists of the prodigous memory of a magically extended lifespan as witnessed by the half asleep greatgrandsonthat may all be a hallucination during the longest blowjob in history that takes place between two of the main charactersIn great synchronicitywhen I logged in to write this review the uote of the day is from NM whose birthday is today In honour of this I forgive him his brutish nasties and give him the full five stars for his luxuriousexuisite writing and his unboundable imagination


  10. WILLIAM2 WILLIAM2 says:

    Wacky escapist fun that’s neither trash nor highbrow literary fiction but a few notches above pulp


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